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Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism

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Re: Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism

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I'm glad they're approaching it in a way beyond just "make everything more expensive". It's interesting how when it comes to climate change, a lot of the same people who are otherwise committed to egalitarian ideals immediately jump to "just charge more" as a solution for everything. I'm not saying those kind of policies can't be a piece of the solution, but I really don't see it being effective to tell all but the rich to bike to work and take on vegan diets and give up out of town vacations and stop using a/c, etc. Sure that would probably be effective, but expecting that level of asceticism out of people is just going to push them into the arms of the political parties who tell them "climate change is fake, so take that vacation and don't worry".

Re: Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism

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post #4

There's no silver bullet. Tackling overtourism means limiting the number of tourists. One way to do that is to impose high enough prices.

And then only the wealthy may have holidays.

You cannot limit the number of visitors and let everyone have this sort of holidays.

The most beneficial way to limit the number of visitors for local communities is to increase prices.

If they want to reserve a number of places for people to be able to visit at a low(er) cost (e.g. through a lottery) then good for them, but there is no entitlement to go on holidays to others' countries or to unique places.

Re: Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism

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Overtourist is a paradox Once they will solve this problem, they will try to chaise it again

No it's not. Tourism changes not just prices but character. Consider the recent controversy over the line at Mount Everest. Queueing in line of 100 people so that you can have a minute or two at the summit to take your picture is not the same experience as what you would've gotten climbing Mount Everest 40 years ago. It's this, the destruction of character/experience, what the thing actually is, that is the primary symptom of overtourism.

Re: Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism

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Currently living in Barcelona, where 'overtourism' is a much bigger problem than in Norway IMHO, it feels weird. You start passing bills on restricting tourism, then the natural next step is being hard on immigration, then Brexit.

The ability to control who goes in and who goes out usually falls on the hand of those that shouldn't have that kind of power.

Edit: Removed "At the risk of being downvoted" as some comments suggested

Re: Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another way would be to charge a modest lottery entrance fee and limit the number of winners to a sensible quota.

Scalpers in that market would be intense haha. Legal or not, people would find a way to make market prices

This is why tickets have to be nominative and identity checking enforced.

Re: Norway's Bold Plan to Tackle Overtourism

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post #21

I'm glad they're approaching it in a way beyond just "make everything more expensive". It's interesting how when it comes to climate change, a lot of the same people who are otherwise committed to egalitarian ideals immediately jump to "just charge more" as a solution for everything. I'm not saying those kind of policies can't be a piece of the solution, but I really don't see it being effective to tell all but the r…

Well, Norway is already one of the most expensive countries in the world, second only to Switzerland.
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