Summer heat killed nearly 1,500 in France, officials say

Post by esnard » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 1:08 PM UTC

yardie wrote: post #12

HenryBemis wrote: post #4

> half of those who died were aged over 75 France/Paris has a deeper problem that comes out in these heatwaves. Older people that live alone, with little or no relatives caring for them, and living in flats without air-conditioning, or have low income/pension that they cannot afford an extended heatwave, happen to pass every summer there is a heatwave in Central Europe (which lately is more frequent). I remember hear…

Every year for 10 years, for 1 day, I would work for free and donate my salary to the French state. They had set up a fund to purchase and install air conditioning into the homes of the elderly due to the 2003 heatwave that affected 15,000. And that is literally all I know. The money I earned goes somewhere to do something, supposedly. I'm really starting to feel like I've been defrauded because I also feel not a who…

Post by Nasrudith » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 1:13 PM UTC

leftyted wrote: post #15

tlb wrote: post #2

There's a big penumbra of people who were sort-of killed by heat. For example, I was biking through Europe this August during the heat wave, and one of our group suffered a heart attack. He'll recover, but the paramedics told us that they'd responded to two fatal motorcycle accidents that day, probably caused by the riders getting heatstroke and losing control. When you include cases like that, and you should if you'…

> When you include cases like that, and you should if you're trying to figure out how important it is to avoid global heating, the death toll goes way up. Should you? If we take this approach, I wonder how many people rain kills. Or how many people El Nino kills. My sense is that there are good reasons we don't speak about these kinds of things in the same terms as we speak about, say, an epidemic.

Post by burke » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 1:16 PM UTC

TheAsprngHacker wrote: post #17

ainiriand wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, and yes. Heatwaves like the one experienced in Spain have been extraordinarily long. We experience heat waves all summers and they usually last 2-3 days. This one lasted 1 week. And last year we had 2 heat waves 5 days each. I am talking about ~40 degrees every day. At night barely 28. You can compare historical data here (es) http://www.aemet.es/es/idi/clima/registros_climaticos You can look at the median yearly…

I think that the parent commenter was being sarcastic to ridicule people who think that there being one cold winter day means that global warming isn't real.

Post by thecleaner » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 1:33 PM UTC

yardie wrote: post #12

HenryBemis wrote: post #4

> half of those who died were aged over 75 France/Paris has a deeper problem that comes out in these heatwaves. Older people that live alone, with little or no relatives caring for them, and living in flats without air-conditioning, or have low income/pension that they cannot afford an extended heatwave, happen to pass every summer there is a heatwave in Central Europe (which lately is more frequent). I remember hear…

Every year for 10 years, for 1 day, I would work for free and donate my salary to the French state. They had set up a fund to purchase and install air conditioning into the homes of the elderly due to the 2003 heatwave that affected 15,000. And that is literally all I know. The money I earned goes somewhere to do something, supposedly. I'm really starting to feel like I've been defrauded because I also feel not a who…

Post by algaeontoast » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 1:56 PM UTC

investologia wrote: post #8

France is rich country and AC might be considered in people from certain age It's not the first heat wave and from the speed the global warning is heading, we might see many more heat waves in the near future