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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by thirdsun »

solbloch wrote: post #605
dangus wrote: post #442

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Get an iPhone 8 instead, probably the best value out there for iPhones. If you are worried about shelling out money, remember that an iPhone 8 isn't $449, it's $449 minus whatever you sell it for in a year (probably not much less). And it's even less if you just buy it used or Apple refurbished in the first place. The iPhone SE works fine but the screen size is too small for many apps that get scrunched up pretty bad…

Why an iPhone 8 over a 7? Is the performance much different? Price wise an iPhone 7 Renewed on Amazon is only ~$250-260 (128gb) versus an iPhone 8 which is around ~$400 (64gb).

In addition to Dangus' comment with iPhone 8 you'll also get the same CPU that powers the iPhone X, which will be more than fine for quite a few more years. Furthermore I'm confident it will be supported with major software updates for a long time. It is the sweet spot for customers on a low budget or looking for a small phone. The iPhone SE, as much as I like to form factor, isn't a good new purchase at this point.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by andruby »

yzfr12006 wrote: post #990
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #731

Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years, absolutely nothing if the battery is replaced; there could be even diminished returns if you buy a new smartphone(unavailability of headphone jack, losing metal body, losing faster biometric authentication). Improvement in camera could be enticing, but the platforms to which the photos, videos a…

Can't agree with that statement. There is a thing called Moore's law. The smartphones will continue to grow and accelerate their hardware and software development. This is simply the future. I the next 50 years I think everyone will use just one device and this is more likely to be something like a smartphone. What Steve Jobs did in his first iPhone presentation can't be done again. He simply set the bar so high that…

Except Moore's law ended in 2012.

Apple and Steve did some truly "breakthrough" product announcements. Steve mentioned this in his iPad announcement. The timing was right, the technology was right, the market was right.

It's possible we're not going to get another one of those remarkable revelations like the iPhone and the iPad in our lifetimes. And that's ok.

The speed of change has been tremendous in the past 100 years and –besides doing a lot of good– also has serious social and ecological repercussions.

Perhaps I'm getting old, but maybe it's a good thing that the pace of change is slowing.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by ekzy »

ricardobeat wrote: post #874
ekzy wrote: post #858

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The 3D Touch on the keyboard to edit text is absolutely amazing. I use it all the time and saves me a lot of time. I love it. It's a shame that most people don't know about it. However I don't use any other feature with 3D touch, either because I don't know about it or I find it useful.

That feature is also available without 3D Touch, just use a long press.

The long press doesn't have the same capability. With 3D touch you can also select text by pressing harder on the screen, which is the real magic of that feature.

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Post by woat »

SKADAD wrote: post #952
aguzzi94 wrote: post #939

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My iPhone 6s, with its weird turning off and on randomly at times and other funky behaviors, was (and will always be) my favorite phone I ever owned! I'm not joking :)

Same, still have mine since release. My only issue is the battery but that's cheaply replaced. I'm still deciding if i should upgrade or try to push another year or two with it.

When my 6 broke, I decided to switch carriers (from prepaid) to try out the new (at the time - earlier this year) XR. For the 1 week I owned it, there was something strange about it that I just can't describe. It wasn't buyers remorse, but it just felt wrong in my hands. I genuinely asked myself if spending 1k + 100/mo was worth it. Ended up returning the phone, returned back to my old carrier, and ended up going with a 6s making my purchase at 250 + 30/mo. No qualms.

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Post by marble-drink »

PagingCraig wrote: post #962
marble-drink wrote: post #808

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Personally I drive the top-spec Civic of 15 years ago. I would never own a current luxury item because I don't think it's worth spending my entire life working for a product that will become normal a couple of weeks after I buy it. Humans are only sensitive to change. A positive change feels good. No change feels normal. A negative change feels awful. A sensible person would try to fill their life with positive chang…

Current Civic wouldn't be a "luxury" item anyway.

Thanks for confirming my point. A personal vehicle capable of effortlessly transporting you, four passengers and ample luggage across thousands of miles at 70mph+ isn't even luxury!

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Post by marble-drink »

heartbreak wrote: post #916
marble-drink wrote: post #808

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Personally I drive the top-spec Civic of 15 years ago. I would never own a current luxury item because I don't think it's worth spending my entire life working for a product that will become normal a couple of weeks after I buy it. Humans are only sensitive to change. A positive change feels good. No change feels normal. A negative change feels awful. A sensible person would try to fill their life with positive chang…

For what it’s worth, a 2019 base-model Civic includes a backup camera, automatic emergency braking, adaptive cruise control, lane-keep assist, road departure mitigation, more airbags, and every other safety improvement Honda engineers have come up with since 2004. It’s also more fuel efficient, which would reduce your consumption of fossil fuels.

What's your point? I don't enjoy any of the stuff you mentioned. I don't need it and refuse to work harder to get it.

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Post by tpmx »

misterprime wrote: post #589
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This is a surprisingly thought-provoking comment and the theory checks out. Until Apple are able to break out of this mould I feel they'll be stuck at this combination of a) uninteresting yearly iterations b) ever increasing base phone prices for little end user gain I don't thinkt hey're able to paint themselves out of this corner on the smartphone front. They have iOS as a decent but certainly not impregnable moat…

Did the base phone price increase this year? I thought it stayed the same and improved some of the materials used in regards to toxicity and sourcing concerns.

Sorry, I guess I was super unclear. The new non-budget device is called "iPhone 11 Pro". I think it makes sense to look at the base price of this device, rather than the budget "iPhone 11" device.

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Post by ayoisaiah »

_pmf_ wrote: post #812
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #731

Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years, absolutely nothing if the battery is replaced; there could be even diminished returns if you buy a new smartphone(unavailability of headphone jack, losing metal body, losing faster biometric authentication). Improvement in camera could be enticing, but the platforms to which the photos, videos a…

> Smartphone hardware is done. Eye tracking based scrolling would be something that I'd like; for reading long articles/books. Using regular camera is prohibitively power hungry; not sure if there is research for special purpose cameras for this purpose.

Didn't the Samsung galaxy S4 have this?

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Post by kerbs »

ssully wrote: post #938
kerbs wrote: post #139

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As long as you have a decent iCloud data subscription, all that 4k video quickly gets whisked away to the cloud. The 64GB on the device effectively houses installed apps and an effective cache of thumbnails and downloaded content. I have the 256 GB config and the needle basically never moves up from about 45 GB.

I noticed that recently and am wondering if I would be fine with the lowest storage option in the future. I have 128GB and have never gone above 60GB. I am sitting on 20GB's of local music that hasn't been touched since I switched to streaming music two years ago.

128 GB is the sweet spot. I imagine there is a very large glob of users in the 50-75 GB range, which is right there on the border of "64 GB will give you problems".

Getting the Pro model, the next step up is 256 - which is super eye-rolling. The 128 GB model on the regular 11 is perfect.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by danw1979 »

danw1979 wrote: post #403
baq wrote: post #298

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inherited 6s reporting in, have exactly 0 reasons to upgrade.

Roger that. Battery needs replacing but I'll gladly give Apple £80 to do that instead of £1.3k for a new one. Really glad I got the 128GB 6s now... lots of storage makes the difference in longevity.

I came back to this comment to admit that I just got a new phone on launch day.
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