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PS3 Root Key Hacker Sued

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Re: PS3 Root Key Hacker Sued

#4

Previous discussion when the root key was released: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2063058

>>> In late December 2010, a hacking group called FAIL0VERFLOW discovered a way to access certain (but not all) levels of the PS3 System by circumventing the corresponding TPMs. Id. at ¶16; Bricker Decl. at ¶5, Exh. D. At that point, hackers were given the tools to run unauthorized and pirated software on the PS3 System My understanding is that fail0verflow's exploit didn't enable piracy at all because metldr wasn't being exploited. Anyway, won't this go the way of iphone, where is was ruled that jailbreaking is legal?

My hardware, my rules...

Re: PS3 Root Key Hacker Sued

#5
Sony is always willing to spread the love while I fully understand the desire and drive to reverse and break the security of closed platforms.. grandstanding about your success in a public way traceable to you seems really misguided...

It would seem better to release and wait for the ashes to settle first no?

Re: PS3 Root Key Hacker Sued

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post #4

Previous discussion when the root key was released: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2063058

>>> In late December 2010, a hacking group called FAIL0VERFLOW discovered a way to access certain (but not all) levels of the PS3 System by circumventing the corresponding TPMs. Id. at ¶16; Bricker Decl. at ¶5, Exh. D. At that point, hackers were given the tools to run unauthorized and pirated software on the PS3 System My understanding is that fail0verflow's exploit didn't enable piracy at all because metldr wasn't…

One can hope so. It's really dependent on how the DMCA is interpreted. I was wondering where this legal action was when I heard about the exploits.

Shame on Congress for passing the DMCA to begin with. This exploit only furthers cryptography in practice (that is, this will be a lesson in crypto textbooks for generations to come).

Re: PS3 Root Key Hacker Sued

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post #4

Previous discussion when the root key was released: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2063058

>>> In late December 2010, a hacking group called FAIL0VERFLOW discovered a way to access certain (but not all) levels of the PS3 System by circumventing the corresponding TPMs. Id. at ¶16; Bricker Decl. at ¶5, Exh. D. At that point, hackers were given the tools to run unauthorized and pirated software on the PS3 System My understanding is that fail0verflow's exploit didn't enable piracy at all because metldr wasn't…

They didn't have an exploit: they showed how to get the private keys to sign anything. Much more valuable (for legitimate uses (and piracy)) than geohot's posting of one individual key.

Re: PS3 Root Key Hacker Sued

#8
This notion of owning a piece of hardware without the legal right to take it apart worries me.

Close that car hood citizen, there are secrets in there, don't make me taze you.

erk: C0 CE FE 84 C2 27 F7 5B D0 7A 7E B8 46 50 9F 93 B2 38 E7 70 DA CB 9F F4 A3 88 F8 12 48 2B E2 1B

riv: 47 EE 74 54 E4 77 4C C9 B8 96 0C 7B 59 F4 C1 4D

pub: C2 D4 AA F3 19 35 50 19 AF 99 D4 4E 2B 58 CA 29 25 2C 89 12 3D 11 D6 21 8F 40 B1 38 CA B2 9B 71 01 F3 AE B7 2A 97 50 19

R: 80 6E 07 8F A1 52 97 90 CE 1A AE 02 BA DD 6F AA A6 AF 74 17

n: E1 3A 7E BC 3A CC EB 1C B5 6C C8 60 FC AB DB 6A 04 8C 55 E1

K: BA 90 55 91 68 61 B9 77 ED CB ED 92 00 50 92 F6 6C 7A 3D 8D

Da: C5 B2 BF A1 A4 13 DD 16 F2 6D 31 C0 F2 ED 47 20 DC FB 06 70

Re: PS3 Root Key Hacker Sued

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Sony is always willing to spread the love while I fully understand the desire and drive to reverse and break the security of closed platforms.. grandstanding about your success in a public way traceable to you seems really misguided... It would seem better to release and wait for the ashes to settle first no?

Should have leaked the keys through wikileaks .. harhar..

But seriously, the fail0verlflow guys had legitimate grounds to exploit the PS3. Sony had taken away OtherOS, effectively crippling the product they had purchased, which was advertised as offering this feature. Imagine instead, what would happen if Sony had taken away the ability to play games?..

Re: PS3 Root Key Hacker Sued

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post #4

Previous discussion when the root key was released: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2063058

>>> In late December 2010, a hacking group called FAIL0VERFLOW discovered a way to access certain (but not all) levels of the PS3 System by circumventing the corresponding TPMs. Id. at ¶16; Bricker Decl. at ¶5, Exh. D. At that point, hackers were given the tools to run unauthorized and pirated software on the PS3 System My understanding is that fail0verflow's exploit didn't enable piracy at all because metldr wasn't…

Note that phone jail breaking was given a very narrow exemption by the Library of Congress through the terms of the DMCA. It doesn't establish any legal precedent here, and lobbying for such an exemption is a lengthy process.

Morally they seem similar enough, sadly that's not the issue.

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