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McDonald's is to replace human servers with voice gen in its US drive-throughs

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Re: McDonald's is to replace human servers with voice gen in its US drive-throughs

#11
"Double Quarter Pounder, just the sandwich, only cheese, no bun. Two side salads no croutons, no dressing, two dip cups of ranch for nuggets. Large diet dr pepper, easy ice."

Lets see if the AI can get that right more often than their staff can.

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#12

I am not sure voice based AI is up to the task. Even with a headset/mic Google Assistant and Siri have problems with more complicated commands. I am not sure how well the tech will hold up to the effects of wind, car engine sounds, screaming kids, customizations (hold the pickles), accents, etc. What I think will happen is that they will roll out this technology, and then be faced with a bunch of irritated customers…

You're thinking short-term. What are the odds the food service industry will employ humans to take mass-market food orders in 10 years?

Restaurant servers will still exist at the higher-end, much like chauffeurs do today. But most people won't be driving their cars and a human won't be taking burger orders or grilling the patty.

Re: McDonald's is to replace human servers with voice gen in its US drive-throughs

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I am not sure voice based AI is up to the task. Even with a headset/mic Google Assistant and Siri have problems with more complicated commands. I am not sure how well the tech will hold up to the effects of wind, car engine sounds, screaming kids, customizations (hold the pickles), accents, etc. What I think will happen is that they will roll out this technology, and then be faced with a bunch of irritated customers…

You're thinking short-term. What are the odds the food service industry will employ humans to take mass-market food orders in 10 years? Restaurant servers will still exist at the higher-end, much like chauffeurs do today. But most people won't be driving their cars and a human won't be taking burger orders or grilling the patty.

My honest opinion is that after investing in AI and seeing it come up short time and again, over the next 10 years, businesses are going to run from anything that calls itself AI.

I think we are going to have another “AI” winter.

Re: McDonald's is to replace human servers with voice gen in its US drive-throughs

#15
Next they'll come for the cooks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKCVol2iWcc

There are ~487k fast food cooks employed at ~$22.6k average wages. That's more than an $11 billion annual incentive to bring robochefs to retail. And that's just fast food, just in the US.

Robo janitors may take a bit longer. Maybe they can design automated kitchens that work like jumbo dish washers. Seal, flood, heat, drain, reopen. The janitors could take the form of underwater scrubbing drones.

Put the kitchen in a shipping container that plugs into the restaurant. When it breaks swap it out for a refurbished one and haul it back to the repair center. With a self-driving truck.

Let customers watch their order being prepared on their phone, micromanaging the bot with special requests.

Re: McDonald's is to replace human servers with voice gen in its US drive-throughs

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Much better article about this direct from McDonalds - https://news.mcdonalds.com/stories/company-news-details/acqu... @dang can we get the URL changed?

Article you posted is mostly P/R fluff. I would prefer a human taking my order. Automating this stuff has 2 benefits, reduced costs while still selling over-priced sub-par food. Second, being able to upsell using video and voice technology. Are either of these good for consumers, not particularly. Nor are they good for employees. They are potentially good for management and ownership.

That's pretty sad outcome to all this. Optimizing increasing the number of calories people are eating by up-selling sugary drinks and other add-on items or larger sizes (was recently at a McDonalds and that's exactly what their large ordering terminal was doing) and optimizing for increasing people's weight.

Imagine using the same technology to reduce people's weight. But that's not usually the way to profit for fast food companies like McDonald's.

Re: McDonald's is to replace human servers with voice gen in its US drive-throughs

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post #6

Much better article about this direct from McDonalds - https://news.mcdonalds.com/stories/company-news-details/acqu... @dang can we get the URL changed?

Yeah. That's a much better article. They're buying a company to work on it. It sounds ridiculous on the surface, but I remember a Microsoft presentation from Build 2016 (ish ?) where the presenter was showing a natural language query product where they used food ordering as an example. I thought it was super cool the way they trained it. The computer would guess everything it could and then a human would shuffle boxe…

Seems like they have access to a goldmine of labeled training data

Re: McDonald's is to replace human servers with voice gen in its US drive-throughs

#18
"What drinks do you have?" "Can I get combo without the drink?" "How much cheaper is it with a water?" "My kid wants the rainbow Happy Meal toy, can we have that one please?" "What time did you stop serving breakfast?" "Do you still have McFlurries? What flavors are there?"

This won't go well.

Re: McDonald's is to replace human servers with voice gen in its US drive-throughs

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post #15

Next they'll come for the cooks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKCVol2iWcc There are ~487k fast food cooks employed at ~$22.6k average wages. That's more than an $11 billion annual incentive to bring robochefs to retail. And that's just fast food, just in the US. Robo janitors may take a bit longer. Maybe they can design automated kitchens that work like jumbo dish washers. Seal, flood, heat, drain, reopen. The jan…

Next they’ll come for the liquidator. The Burger King on the NYS thruway north of nyc went to touchscreen ordering. Everyone refuses to use it and there is one long line going to the one register that remained.
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