I like iphone11 pro.
iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
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#972Apple is the largest technology company in the world
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#973At our house, because I like new gadgets and my wife doesn't care, I have typically gotten a new phone every 2 years, and handed my old one to her to use for 2 more. Then we fucked up the supply chain by breaking two phones in fairly quick succession. :( She's on a 6S, and I have an 8. Both are about 2 years old now. I love to shift to FaceID on a X-style phone, and I'm a big amateur photographer, so holy crap the ph…
I have an iPhone XS Max. FaceID is nice. The camera is good, no question. It is enough for me and for most people. But don't buy too much into the shit Apple tells about their cameras. After I got the XS Max a year ago, I was seriously unimpressed. They overpromised and underdelivered on the capabilities of the camera. Don't get me wrong. It's a good camera, probably the best in a phone, but boy, the "magical" portra…
"But don't buy too much into the shit Apple tells about their cameras."
I guess I don't know what that means. Any statement by a manufacturer is self-serving and should generally be taken with lots of salt.
3rd party reviews from trusted sites are more useful.
"Don't get me wrong. It's a good camera, probably the best in a phone"
So bugs exist but it's still "probably the best in a phone?" What's the issue, then?
"didn't frame it as some "camera that pro's use instead of their DSLR" or whatever they said in the marketing campaign"
Have they actually suggested that there exists any real pattern of professionals -- who, above all, tend to shoot in camera RAW, which Apple obscures in iOS -- using iPhones in lieu of full-frame DSLR or mirrorless bodies? Because I sure haven't seen it.
A modern, higher end smartphone is probably a better camera than any fixed-lens option from 3-5 years ago. And, increasingly, that means it's plenty enough camera for most people. But it's nowhere nearly as capable as my Sony.
OTOH, I've seen shots with the X and later iterations (by humans I know, not a marketing department) that were genuinely better, to my eye, than what I get out of my 8. That's appealing.
The other factor for us is the continued existence of the 6S in our family.
The 8's camera is materially better than the one in my wife's 6S, and this matters since we both take pics of friends and family and vacations. Moving her to the 8 and me to an 11 Pro would mean a net uptick in group photo quality. Win!
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#974Am I the only one who finds the design with all those cameras unsettling in some weird way?
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#975Earlier quoted context omitted.
Typical consumerism. I have siblings who did the same for a fancy bed. These people are mostly helpless. And you're only an employee.. I'm sure it's not great to try to turn a customer away from a sale right ? Even as a sibling, unless I'm ready to start a family war there's no leverage. ps: the 40yo man might have sold or made use of the other iPhone. I hope he did not just pile them up in a drawer.
For me personally, working there was a perpetual moral internal debate. I was good at convincing people that were on the edge of buying. On one hand, the more you sell, the higher the commission you get, for you and the whole team. On the other hand, you have to sell tech that is one of the best, but for the time being, totally overpriced. Therefore, you have to manipulate a lot, and tell half-truths if not blatant l…
I read you work in Italy Apple Store, and this is the first time I hear Apple Store has commission.
Does anyone know any other region where Apple Store operate with commission, one of the things John Gruber likes to pride Apple are their employees don't have commission and therefore could give candid advice.
Or did All Apple Store has commission now since Burberry Queen took over?
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#976Earlier quoted context omitted.
Going from a crappy camera to something like on Pixel3a is truly a leap especially when you are looking photos yourself on the screen. But say you had bought iPhone 8 (same year as Redmi Note 4) and you share pictures to social media; Pictures from iPhone 11 would be indiscernible to those who see your photos at the other end.
> Pictures from iPhone 11 would be indiscernible to those who see your photos at the other end I disagree. As an iPhone 8 user even iPhone X pictures are massively improved, not to mention a Huawei P30 or Pixel 3XL... night sight doesn't exist and post-processing by external apps only.
I wouldn't say Massively improved. But it was definitely noticeable. By not massively improved, I mean photos from iPhone 8 looks fine, but when you gets to compare with X, you immediately notice the difference.
The same goes to X and Xs, although the difference is a little less drastic, but P30 and Pixel were both winning, and when you compare it, it was obvious.
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#977Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years, absolutely nothing if the battery is replaced; I am excited about the possibility of graphene based batteries. https://www.graphene-info.com/graphene-batteries and https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-develops-battery-mat... Which could be as early as 2020-2021 if the leaks are correct http…
Graphene battery, foldable display, 5G network, >1TB internal storage, Fingerprint reader at any point on the screen could all kickoff new generational cycle. But, it will happen in increments and for all the above features to be available in one smartphone which is affordable, will take another 3-4 years and hence my OP comment that current generation is done. Edit: 1TB
>and hence my OP comment that current generation is done.
May be it should have worded better, I reread the comment multiple times and I don't get where the current generation is done comes from. It reads to me as Hardware is done, period.
The market is saturated, and of course every company will try to milk it for as long as they could, while trying to figure out the next big thing, if there is any that is the size of current Smartphone market.
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#978Lots of people disappointed in the new iPhone. The reason I see is simple; Apple has long been outsourced a large fraction of its hardware innovation capabilities to other companies rather than having a full vertical ownership of the production line, unlike its competitors (Samsung, Huawei, etc). This works very well when most of the required technologies are already there for bringing their idea to the reality so Ap…
>Apple has long been outsourced a large fraction of its hardware innovation capabilities to other companies rather than having a full vertical ownership of the production line, unlike its competitors (Samsung, Huawei, etc).
Apart from Samsung which does Full vertical ownership, there isn't any other company which does that. And Huawei uses Foxconn as well, OLED from BOE, NAND and DRAM from Multiple Sources etc. There is nothing from Huawei that shows Full Vertical Ownership.
>While all the competitors are shipping 5G in their flagships, iPhone 11 couldn't ship 5G due to their hard dependency on Qualcomm. In short, the current landscape doesn't allow Apple to keep itself on the bleeding edge in the smartphone business.
Apple wasn't the first with 4G, but they drove 4G adoption. And 5G isn't even ready, all current 5G solution on the market are big, bulky and power hungry. But it is great people are driven into these marketing hype, only by doing so they could recoup some of their R&D investment. For Apple, they will move to 5G when it is ready.
Yes it didn't allow Apple to be on the bleeding Edge of Foldable Screen. Look at what happen to Samsung. Bleeding Edge means nothing. Not everything has a first mover advantage. Innovation doesn't just requires Bleeding edge, that is Invention. Innovation requires Invention that brings Value to masses, and for that to happen, pricing is often an obstacle.
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#979Former Apple Store employee here! You would be surprised by how people become blind from all the smokes and mirrors of the Apple branding and advertisement. I remember one day, there was a 40-something years old man, that came in with an iPhone X and switched it for an XS, adding 500 euros. Only to return 1 week later to switch the XS for an XR with better storage, adding 250 euros. Only to return 2 weeks later, to s…
Apple stuff lasts, this is not an Apple issue, any of those phones would have been good for several years. I'm only my 3rd iPhone in 9 years (soon to replace it though). Also 3rd iPad in 9 years. My Macbook Air is from 2012. Apple do software updates going quite far back. A lot of Apple's hardware looks exactly the same from generation to generation, so even if you updated, how would anyone know? If customers want to…
I think it's unfair to place the blame entirely on consumers when Apple capitalizes on a culture which places value on having the latest gadgets and gizmos.
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#980Lots of people disappointed in the new iPhone. The reason I see is simple; Apple has long been outsourced a large fraction of its hardware innovation capabilities to other companies rather than having a full vertical ownership of the production line, unlike its competitors (Samsung, Huawei, etc). This works very well when most of the required technologies are already there for bringing their idea to the reality so Ap…
I'm thoroughly confused by your comment. Was not Apple's FaceID a full year, if not more, ahead of the competition? Sure they didn't sit in cupertino, stitching together components, but they designed an integration of existing components in a way that saved space and made them work in concert in a way no other competitor had. I don't think they're in as much trouble as you make out
Yes, FaceID is another good example of technology that could be brought to the reality without long-term strategical commitments from other big (possibly competing) companies. I'm not saying that Apple is losing its edge on product technology "design". Apple will still remain to be the best here at least for several more years. But it's also still true that the technological bar for manufacturing components is rapidly going up and Apple doesn't have much controls in this area.