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Arabic and Islamic Themes in Frank Herbert's “Dune” (2004-2017)

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Re: Arabic and Islamic Themes in Frank Herbert's “Dune” (2004-2017)

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Higher production value.

Woah i wasnt trying to be racist the Fremen in the books literally go on a genocidal jihad later. In the first book they hint at just how far their fanaticism goes and explicitly includes a part where they hijack a vehicle and crash it into Harkonnen troops. The political undertones would be interesting to see play out in this modern climate.

I didn't mean to suggest any racism. Mine is simply a throw away comment on the unusually high production value of Wahhabist propaganda videos.

Re: Arabic and Islamic Themes in Frank Herbert's “Dune” (2004-2017)

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I can't speak for what bugged the above poster, but that sentence is worded in an incredibly awkward way.

Not really. English your first language? I’d take out the last comma and that’s it

Yup, I'm a monoglot. Saying something is "symbolic about" is awkward wording IMO. As is saying "dependence on the oil", instead of just "dependence on oil".

Re: Arabic and Islamic Themes in Frank Herbert's “Dune” (2004-2017)

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In the later books, perhaps the ones by Brian Herbert, they discover a planet of Jews, mostly unchanged for 15,000 years, except they have created some self-fashioned bene gesseret-like women.

last Frank Herbert book Chapter House Dune and from what I remember it was more like an underground society of Jewsish people who kept their beliefs completely unchanged over the thousands of years, as opposed to all the other religions and societies. I think it was politically organised along matriarchal lines but there were still male rabbis. I shoul read it again it's been decades! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

The story line was really fascinating, especially the conflict and eventual merger with "The Whores".. However, when he wrote the last two books, beginning with the beautiful introductional ode to Herbert's deceased wife, .. it's clear his heart wasn't in it, and he was ready for the end (of either writing, or his days on the earth).

Re: Arabic and Islamic Themes in Frank Herbert's “Dune” (2004-2017)

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Could you elaborate?

Dune has often been interpreted as a story that contains metaphors to nodern politics such as how the spice dependence is similar to our oil dependence and undertones of how authoritarian regimes try to control the fates of peoples. A lot of the events in the books can be drawn as parallels to our history and modern day situations.

I was asking for more context on:

> Very first paragraph, and already a turn-off.

I know the context for the book’s first phrase, I wanted to know why earlier commenter considered the book’s first phrase a turn-off.

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