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Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by sundvor »

sundvor wrote: post #351
the_watcher wrote: post #16

> all-day 18-hour battery life. Is there a standard for what "all-day" means? I think most would initially assume 24 hours, but thinking about it more, it seems reasonable to consider "can work from wake up to sleep" or "can work from sunup to sundown"/

Unlike the Samsung Watch which will do several days with always on display, GPS enabled. But congratulations to Apple for finally making their watches usable as, well, a watch.

Coming from a number of Pebbles, when the last one died it was a requirement for me by then that a smart watch should be able to always display the time.

Call me old fashioned if you must. I disabled gesture based display on (with night mode turning it off when asleep) as the first thing when I got the S3 Frontier, then sold it / upgraded to Watch later for improved battery life. It does at least 50% better and is faster as well.

Garmin watches also do well for displaying time, even better in fact, but they are a fair bit more expensive.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by homonculus1 »

EugeneOZ wrote: post #195
Nextgrid wrote: post #97

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Apple Music is a disaster when it comes to music discovery, and frankly their app is very much behind compared to Spotify. Even on iOS it feels like a web app, something I didn’t think I’d ever say about Apple’s own, built-in app.

I feel strongly opposite - Spotify UI is a reason why I cancelled subscription. Queue management is just awful, other elements are much less intuitive than in Apple Music.

Even just navigating to an album or browsing songs saved on your device are awful. Everything I want to do in their app requires far too many clicks or endless scrolling through a list that's only sorted alphabetically, and the pages are stuffed with features that push their algorithmic promotions. You're not gonna have a good time unless you're the most mindless, passive consumer and you don't want to bother with managing your library or making any choices of your own.

Saving songs is spotty too, some of the "saved" songs on my phone don't actually have the data and won't play when I'm offline. I can't figure out how to force them to redownload short of maybe uninstalling the app, so sucks to be me I guess. Spotify's mobile app is so bad that I'm constantly reconsidering my subscription. I'd go so far as to say that being able to explore new artists and save their discography for later when I'm commuting is a meaningful improvement to my quality of life, but Spotify has managed to make the experience so shitty that I usually just turn on the radio instead.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by cjbenedikt »

"...so it’s easy to see the time and other important information, without raising or tapping the display." Did the whole watch industry for at least 150 + years...truly innovative

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by kcolford »

dkonofalski wrote: post #393
joegahona wrote: post #386

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I signed up to Apple Music for this very reason, and will likely dump Spotify despite my love for their Discover feature.

This, combined with an Apple Music student discount (yay going back to school as an adult), is exactly what got me to dump Spotify.

Spotify also has a student discount which is what got me to bother paying for it.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by dkonofalski »

drusepth wrote: post #425
dkonofalski wrote: post #329

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>mentally track the battery for Meaning what? I can't even think of a single time where I actually had to think about what the battery level is and I only charge it while I'm in the shower in the morning.

Meaning literally ever worrying about finding yourself in a situation where your watch is dead. Or looking at the battery throughout the day and worrying about whether it'll make it through. Or worrying about bringing its charger on trips, etc. If you enjoy your watch, that's cool and totally great. I stopped wearing mine and it was mentally freeing not having one extra device's battery to monitor throughout the day.…

>mentally freeing not having one extra device's battery to monitor throughout the day

I don't have to do that, though. That's my point. It wouldn't free me from anything because I currently don't think about it ever.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by drusepth »

dkonofalski wrote: post #475
drusepth wrote: post #425

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Meaning literally ever worrying about finding yourself in a situation where your watch is dead. Or looking at the battery throughout the day and worrying about whether it'll make it through. Or worrying about bringing its charger on trips, etc. If you enjoy your watch, that's cool and totally great. I stopped wearing mine and it was mentally freeing not having one extra device's battery to monitor throughout the day.…

>mentally freeing not having one extra device's battery to monitor throughout the day I don't have to do that, though. That's my point. It wouldn't free me from anything because I currently don't think about it ever .

It's great to hear your watch never dies on you, and you never have to worry about its battery. Surely you've worried about your phone, laptop, or headphones/earbuds batteries before -- if you want to sympathize, it's kind of like any of those. It adds to the list of devices you worry about. Subtracting from that list means less worries.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by dkonofalski »

adrr wrote: post #433
dkonofalski wrote: post #378

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To be fair, though, that's 100% Spotify's fault. I remember when there was a watch app for Spotify and Spotify bought out the company and removed the app from the App Store. Now, they refuse to release a new app because of their little dispute with Apple regarding purchases. Makes me hate Spotify because it only adds to the list of really silly things they've done that spites customers but might make them a few dolla…

There are no 3rd party apps that can stream over the cell connection or Wifi on the Apple Watch. Pandora, Tunein etc. Some can do offline. Pretty sure Apple only allows their apps to use the cell connection for streaming because thats an Apple thing to do.

That's not true. Spotify purchased an app that did just this by buffering into playlists that updated while they downloaded and then they promptly killed the app. WatchOS 6 also includes the ability for third parties to stream directly and Spotify has publicly said that they refuse to use this until Apple changes their App Store policies.

It's completely do-able and Spotify has the capability to do it, now and in the recent past.

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Post by dkonofalski »

MagnumOpus wrote: post #466
joegahona wrote: post #386

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I signed up to Apple Music for this very reason, and will likely dump Spotify despite my love for their Discover feature.

The anticompetitive measure by Apple working as designed then. Looking forward to the inevitable outcry on this forum once the EU competition commissioner levies another fine on Apple worth a day's profits...

Spotify being a baby is an anticompetitive measure by Apple? That's a hot take.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by dkonofalski »

drusepth wrote: post #476
dkonofalski wrote: post #475

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>mentally freeing not having one extra device's battery to monitor throughout the day I don't have to do that, though. That's my point. It wouldn't free me from anything because I currently don't think about it ever .

It's great to hear your watch never dies on you, and you never have to worry about its battery. Surely you've worried about your phone, laptop, or headphones/earbuds batteries before -- if you want to sympathize, it's kind of like any of those. It adds to the list of devices you worry about. Subtracting from that list means less worries.

Are you being intentionally obtuse? If you never have to worry about the battery on the watch, what's the need to sympathize? You say "it adds to the list of devices [I] worry about" but I'm explicitly telling you that it doesn't add to that list because I don't have to worry about it.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Post by ken »

wil421 wrote: post #66
GordonS wrote: post #24

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I quite like the idea of a smart watch, but having to charge it every day is much less appealing.

Just like your cell phone and laptop? My Apple Watch 4 lasts for 2 days. I still throw it on the charger most nights along with my phone.

My phone lasts more than a day of typical use on a charge ("Standby time: Up to 10 days"). When I'm using my laptop for anything more than an hour, it's easy (and not inconvenient) to find an outlet and plug in.

For a watch, 18 hours might not even cover a full work day.

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