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Re: Day Trading for a Living?

#11
Impossible? Lol I have a handful of friends that do this. It's hard work but they make 5 to 6 figures consistently per year.

It's very very hard, and not everyone can do it. I tried and lost a lot of money. But it's definitely not impossible, that is simply a lie.

Re: Day Trading for a Living?

#12
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The abstract, of course, contains more detail than the headline regarding exactly what is claimed: > We show that it is virtually impossible for an individual to day trade for a living, contrary to what course providers claim. We observe all individuals who began to day trade between 2013 and 2015 in the Brazilian equity futures market, the third in terms of volume in the world, and persisted for at least 300 days: 9…

The interesting bit to me is, “we find no evidence of learning by day trading”. This implies to me that the top earners are merely lucky, and have no special knowledge or advantages.

Insider info?

The Longer I live, the more I see people profiting off knowledge.

A personal example I see of this is in Tech. If you understand tech, you can find areas people don't understand. Those are what's worth investing or shorting.

Although if you are limited to day trades I'm not sure this is relevant.

Re: Day Trading for a Living?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The abstract, of course, contains more detail than the headline regarding exactly what is claimed: > We show that it is virtually impossible for an individual to day trade for a living, contrary to what course providers claim. We observe all individuals who began to day trade between 2013 and 2015 in the Brazilian equity futures market, the third in terms of volume in the world, and persisted for at least 300 days: 9…

And the article even moreso: > "We follow all individuals who day traded mini-Ibovespa futures contracts for their first time from 2013 to 2015, a total of 19,646 individuals." I know nothing about the Brazilian equities market, but it seems like it might be harder to for individuals to reliably make a profit on something heavily traded and fungible (Ibovespa is an index), where you're competing with much bigger play…

The trick with a lot of smaller markets is that they're easily manipulated. You try to trend-follow and just get exploited by pump-and-dumps.

Re: Day Trading for a Living?

#14

Impossible? Lol I have a handful of friends that do this. It's hard work but they make 5 to 6 figures consistently per year. It's very very hard, and not everyone can do it. I tried and lost a lot of money. But it's definitely not impossible, that is simply a lie.

I mean... 10,000 is five figures.

Re: Day Trading for a Living?

#15
I mean you may as well say: Study shows it is impossible for an individual to build a tech start up as a living.

Just because something is hard doesn't mean it's impossible. Day trading, like many other risky ventures, is something that is very hard and unlikely but for the few who succeed ends up being very profitable.

Re: Day Trading for a Living?

#16

Impossible? Lol I have a handful of friends that do this. It's hard work but they make 5 to 6 figures consistently per year. It's very very hard, and not everyone can do it. I tried and lost a lot of money. But it's definitely not impossible, that is simply a lie.

All things considered, "5 figures" seems like a pretty low income for something that is "very very hard", and risky. Seems like if you have the skills and tenacity to day trade like that you could find some other job to pay you high 5 figures with a more stability.

Re: Day Trading for a Living?

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I don't doubt the headline, but "We observe all individuals who began to day trade between 2013 and 2015 in the Brazilian equity futures market" seems like a weird way to come to that conclusion.

20,000 people trading a broad based equity futures market over two years isnt a bad study

But yes a study of individual stocks and certain sectors would be better

Or following those individual accounts to see how they grew based on everything it traded would be interesting

Re: Day Trading for a Living?

#20
It is difficult to make a living but you can make money day trading. Market isn't the fastest. You can capture value on big events like the Boeing issues and other events. If you have risk appetite you can write options and pick up nickels in front of a steam roller.
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