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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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So the iPhone and iPad line-up look fine to me. Nothing exciting, but it doesn't have to be if you are upgrading every 2-3 years and you are a fan of Apple's tight integration of software and hardware.

The most worrying is the state of the App Store, a graveyard of abandoned apps and games. Apple Arcade looks like it will be such a missed opportunity. Why can I not develop full-fledged iPad apps on my iPad Pro?

The App Store used to be part of reviews of Apple's mobile devices, often giving it the edge over Android. Why is it not anymore?

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"Case in point : MKBHD made a blind test last year and low cost smartphone Mi Pocophone which scored pathetic camera performance in individual reviews came out top in the blind test." Marques doesn't have kids. I loved my Redmi Note 4. I even liked the chin, as the buttons were on it - so my usable screen size was actually larger than the Pixel XL that replaced it. That phone took perfectly acceptable shots with stil…

Going from a crappy camera to something like on Pixel3a is truly a leap especially when you are looking photos yourself on the screen. But say you had bought iPhone 8 (same year as Redmi Note 4) and you share pictures to social media; Pictures from iPhone 11 would be indiscernible to those who see your photos at the other end.

That night photo difference looks a lot better as one example in the landing page. Would that not be a noticeable difference?

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

#893

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Case in point : MKBHD made a blind test last year and low cost smartphone Mi Pocophone which scored pathetic camera performance in individual reviews came out top in the blind test." Marques doesn't have kids. I loved my Redmi Note 4. I even liked the chin, as the buttons were on it - so my usable screen size was actually larger than the Pixel XL that replaced it. That phone took perfectly acceptable shots with stil…

Going from a crappy camera to something like on Pixel3a is truly a leap especially when you are looking photos yourself on the screen. But say you had bought iPhone 8 (same year as Redmi Note 4) and you share pictures to social media; Pictures from iPhone 11 would be indiscernible to those who see your photos at the other end.

> Pictures from iPhone 11 would be indiscernible to those who see your photos at the other end

I disagree. As an iPhone 8 user even iPhone X pictures are massively improved, not to mention a Huawei P30 or Pixel 3XL... night sight doesn't exist and post-processing by external apps only.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Graphene battery, foldable display, 5G network, >1TB internal storage, Fingerprint reader at any point on the screen could all kickoff new generational cycle. But, it will happen in increments and for all the above features to be available in one smartphone which is affordable, will take another 3-4 years and hence my OP comment that current generation is done. Edit: 1TB

Let's see. I don't agree with many of the points. 5G Network? Every phone will have it in 3 years. >1TB storage? In Android land you can already buy a 1TB microSD card and stick it into your phone resulting in >1TB total storage. Are many people doing that? Fingerprint reader in the screen: Who cares if its below the display or on the back of the phone? It's a rather small improvement.

What would the speed comparison be for all that storage via microSD vs internal?

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I knew/know this person personally. We all knew him because he was an habitual client. He is working as a professor in high school. So the probability of him being so wealthy to change one iPhone per week are not that high. That said, even if he is, do you think that his behavior would be consider sane? His story is just to point out how the sense of worthlessness in some people is financially exploited by prestigiou…

I don't see how FOMO explains anything more than the first purchase. The second and third purchases just seem like random stupidity.

Could be stupidity, or compulsive fomo. I think that to do what he did, stupidity is not enough, you have to have a big fear or insecurity inside to work as a sufficient motivator.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Disappointed that there wasn't really a true breakout feature I guess they're still doing the s-cadence even if they got rid of the name. I'm still rocking a 6s and I'm gonna keep it for the next year I guess, more battery life is nice but can't swing $999 for 4 more hours of battery life. Here's hoping 128gb is standard next year (I currently have the 128gb 6s which was the most expensive at the time).

On a 6S myself but it's in dire need of replacement (survived multiple drops fine, but a flip on my desk broke the glass and now it's progressively getting worse). The 11 looked like a fine-ish option (with a 128GB version), but god it's half an inch wider and taller again, and 30% heavier. I guess I'm getting an 8.

Just FYI: Your options are 64gb, 256gb, 512gb. It honestly doesn't seem likely that they'll change that anytime soon as I haven't heard a single person complain about storage in the last 3 years. While nobody felt that 8/16/32gb was enough.

I happen to be using 50gb atm, on a 3.5 year old phone. But the new cameras have higher resolution photos which take up more space. Plus apps are only ever getting bigger, So I would likely have to pay the extra $100 for the 256gb.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

#898

Does everyone here also drive a base model Honda Civic because “car hardware is done”? This is a luxury product and people upgrade because it’s fun and feels great to have the fastest phone and fanciest camera. It’s not that big a deal, and it’s definitely not a ripoff.

> fun and feels great to have the fastest phone and fanciest camera.

This is what the richest company in the history of humanity is here for: making feel good gadgets. What an achievement. Meanwhile: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/09/apple-foxconn-caught...

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Former Apple Store employee here! You would be surprised by how people become blind from all the smokes and mirrors of the Apple branding and advertisement. I remember one day, there was a 40-something years old man, that came in with an iPhone X and switched it for an XS, adding 500 euros. Only to return 1 week later to switch the XS for an XR with better storage, adding 250 euros. Only to return 2 weeks later, to s…

Apple stuff lasts, this is not an Apple issue, any of those phones would have been good for several years. I'm only my 3rd iPhone in 9 years (soon to replace it though). Also 3rd iPad in 9 years. My Macbook Air is from 2012. Apple do software updates going quite far back. A lot of Apple's hardware looks exactly the same from generation to generation, so even if you updated, how would anyone know? If customers want to…

What you said it totally true. But to say that Apple is not forcing is a white lie. It's true that they're not pointing guns at us, but they are smoothly pointing us in that direction. There's a psychological pressure to have the latest tech, otherwise not only your phone, but also you yourself, are outdated and uncool. No kind of manipulation was ever forceful. That's what makes it a manipulation. You think you're doing it, but another person/company slowly brought you to do it. A lot of people are intelligent and strong enough to resist this brainwash, but a lot of others are not.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

#900

Former Apple Store employee here! You would be surprised by how people become blind from all the smokes and mirrors of the Apple branding and advertisement. I remember one day, there was a 40-something years old man, that came in with an iPhone X and switched it for an XS, adding 500 euros. Only to return 1 week later to switch the XS for an XR with better storage, adding 250 euros. Only to return 2 weeks later, to s…

> I remember one day, there was a 40-something years old man, that came in with an iPhone X and switched it for an XS, adding 500 euros. Only to return 1 week later to switch the XS for an XR with better storage, adding 250 euros. Only to return 2 weeks later, to switch the XR for an XSmax adding 400 euros more or less. This gentleman was so brainwashed into FOMO by Apple that threw 1000+ euros out of the window. Sou…

You should try working at a car dealership. People do this with brand new vehicles, just multiply the euros by 20!
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