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Re: Stripe Corporate Card

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Well, 2% on some things + 1% on everything else is better than I am getting with Amex now. Plus, $50k in free processing is like $1,450 in free money. Honestly, I wouldn't believe that deal, except that I have a multi-year history with stripe as our CC processor and it has been nothing but positive and as-promised. So, I submitted an application. It sounds like a great deal to me.

If you fly, ever, business gold AmEx cannot be beaten. 4x points on the first $150k spent on two categories of your choice. Then, 25% off(!) flights booked with points at AmExTravel.com. I will definitely be getting the Stripe card because the intro offers are so good. But, the airfare discounts alone at AmEx Travel are so good it will continue to be my go-to corporate card.

> Then, 25% off(!) flights booked with points

Just looked it up. Same flight, same time.

Google Flights: $309 AmExTravel: $386

25% off isn't so great when the competitor is already 20% lower.

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

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Do these cards require a personal guarantee? Do they require personal social security number? Can they be ordered in bulk (ie, 5-10 at a time when onboarding folks). Not to be rude, but the corporate card market is different than the personal card market in a number of ways.

Wait, how do these cards work, then? The corporate cards I've used (eg AmEx Corporate) did indeed require a personal guarantee and a personal social security number from each individual who had an account.

From Stripe's corporate card page "All you need to sign up is a Stripe account—no paperwork or personal guarantee required. Get up and running with a virtual card in minutes."

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

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Just the real time expense reporting is a reason strong enough to get this card. Even with expensify and all expensing tools out there, the friction for reimbursements is still very high. This card removes that friction. Essentially, I just spend and upload my receipts. No need to reconciliate transactions, create an expense report, submit that etc. If only this integrated directly with LDAP or something like that to automate the approval workflow.

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

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Just the real time expense reporting is a reason strong enough to get this card. Even with expensify and all expensing tools out there, the friction for reimbursements is still very high. This card removes that friction. Essentially, I just spend and upload my receipts. No need to reconciliate transactions, create an expense report, submit that etc. If only this integrated directly with LDAP or something like that to…

>> real time expense reporting

Agreed. This is huge if they get it right. Definitely going to sign up for the trial.

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

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I assume that represents a very tiny % of their transactions.

Of course it does today. If you fast forward a few years and include this new stripe card it may not and as they own both ends of the transaction they could start to offer better features on transactions that don’t leave their network, incentivising both sides to use it.

Highly optimistic.

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

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Yep, Stripe are also investors in Monzo. This is the obvious long term play and there is no way the incumbents can keep up. It would also allow massive innovation in payments too. Visa and mastercard should be very worried about being displaced.

Visa might be the best business model ever made, I don't think it's going anywhere soon.. Extremely high barrier to entry, extremely low marginal costs, infinite scalability.

Sure, there will always be a middleman, but when plastic cards go away I suspect visa etc will be pushed out.

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

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This is the second time Stripe has been at the top of HN in the last week. Any theories on why? Is this really that novel of a business?

I had to look it up, but Stripe got Y Combinator funding, so that's likely it. I was also confused about why it comes up so often here.

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Re: Stripe Corporate Card

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Of course it does today. If you fast forward a few years and include this new stripe card it may not and as they own both ends of the transaction they could start to offer better features on transactions that don’t leave their network, incentivising both sides to use it.

Highly optimistic.

Yes.

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

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I'd rather they err on the pro-consumer side, to be honest. I doubt those big banks and credit card companies will struggle to fight this and make their case for the appropriate exemptions if their scenarios warrant them.

Banning processing fees is anti-consumer, because it means that consumers who pay by a cheaper method have to subsidize the consumers who pay by the more expensive method (since companies will have to raise the prices for everyone). Credit card companies won't fight bans on processing fees, because it actually helps them (the extra cost of the credit card is now hidden, and reduced, which means more people will use c…

The blanket policy does have the effects you described, but more _often_ it gets rid of hidden charges or makes it trivial to prosecute them. Americans are apparently so used to these that it doesn't register, but Europe has been pretty effective at ensuring that headline prices must reflect the price you pay so as to be comparable.

Europe wants to ensure that if you say Product X is €10 and your competitor says it's €12 that's not just because you were better at lying than they were, the customers buying from you should pay €2 less for Product X. Transparency is essential to having a working market.

The most common place to see "processing fees" was online where in fact cash isn't an option anyway. A company would offer a product for seemingly less than competitors and then charge a "processing fee" which was really their profit. Committees looking at this stuff found that companies charging processing fees were fiercely resistant to a regulation that made them charge their actual cost, insisting that this couldn't be measured anyway and so the options were:

* Let companies advertise a price and then add processing fees of their choosing. As I said Americans are used to this, but Europeans see it as destroying market transparency.

* Forbid tacking on fees altogether (the option they took) so that prices must end up including the merchant's card processing fees the same way they include customer service call costs, warehousing, taxes or anything else.

* Regulate to try to ensure customers have a real way to avoid any processing fees, likely leading to years of court cases as courts rule out each individual sneaky new trick to make an "optional" processing fee in practice mandatory.

In the end I think the route the US chose ends up being more regressive, but I agree the European option isn't a panacea.

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