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Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by xster »

jeffkeen wrote: post #167

Seriously. This giant phone trend is nonsense. Nonsense! I'm a 6'5" man with large hands who still swears by an SE, despite being mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". I had a 6S and promptly ditched it for an SE after feeling like the thing was designed to slip out of my enormous hands. That whole "reachability" feature they added when they started with this phablet obsession was basic…

On the flip side, I'd also be cool with it if the phone industry can manage to move the fashion industry to produce clothing articles with pockets that fits these phones in places that doesn't prevent you from sitting down etc.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by Nursie »

geerlingguy wrote: post #122
theshrike79 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had the 8+ and now XS in my front left pocket just fine. Maybe buy some looser pants? =)

I can fit the larger phones (though still prefer the SE size), but my wife has demonstrated how even the SE is often spilling out of whatever pocket or other way-smaller device holding pocket is on her clothing items. Unless fashion trends change, or everyone who uses purses goes for some giant bag (and likes keeping their phones in a bag, not on their person), there is a large number of people who could use a smalle…

I know a lot of women who find the pocket situation in women's clothes very frustrating. They feel like they're being dictated to that showing off the line of their hip is more important than actually being able to carry anything useful.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by sdan »

xster wrote: post #301
jeffkeen wrote: post #167

Seriously. This giant phone trend is nonsense. Nonsense! I'm a 6'5" man with large hands who still swears by an SE, despite being mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". I had a 6S and promptly ditched it for an SE after feeling like the thing was designed to slip out of my enormous hands. That whole "reachability" feature they added when they started with this phablet obsession was basic…

On the flip side, I'd also be cool with it if the phone industry can manage to move the fashion industry to produce clothing articles with pockets that fits these phones in places that doesn't prevent you from sitting down etc.

Seriously, how do regular people sit with a pencil-box sized iPhone 11/XS Max?

It's why I love my SE. Small, portable, good features a nice phone should have.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by yoz-y »

jeffkeen wrote: post #167

Seriously. This giant phone trend is nonsense. Nonsense! I'm a 6'5" man with large hands who still swears by an SE, despite being mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". I had a 6S and promptly ditched it for an SE after feeling like the thing was designed to slip out of my enormous hands. That whole "reachability" feature they added when they started with this phablet obsession was basic…

Thing is, it is not nonsense. People here always cry for 'voting with your wallet'. Well, people did and here we are. Apple was massively criticised for _years_ that they did not put out a large phone, because that's where all of the android market went.

Then, when they finally made the iPhone 6 their sales were so large that the next year's phone was deemed a flop even though it did extremely well. (If one would remove iPhone 6 from the sales chart, the 6S would still continue the trend in increased sales every year).

I would love apple to also offer a smaller phone, but offering people what they actually want was not a mistake.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by sdan »

randyrand wrote: post #205
mumblemumble wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". Interesting. I don't often get mocked for having an SE, but I do often have people asking what model my phone is and where they can get one. My current hope is that we might see something like the SE come back now that Jony Ive's had at least a glancing blow from the boot. Maybe now Apple's at least a little bit more able to resist the constant dr…

No one has ever asked me that. They know it's an old phone or the SE. It looks the same as the 5 and 5s.

Yeah this is weird. I mean who over the age of 10 doesn't know the famous 4/4S/5/5S lineup?

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by addicted »

yoz-y wrote: post #304
jeffkeen wrote: post #167

Seriously. This giant phone trend is nonsense. Nonsense! I'm a 6'5" man with large hands who still swears by an SE, despite being mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". I had a 6S and promptly ditched it for an SE after feeling like the thing was designed to slip out of my enormous hands. That whole "reachability" feature they added when they started with this phablet obsession was basic…

Thing is, it is not nonsense. People here always cry for 'voting with your wallet'. Well, people did and here we are. Apple was massively criticised for _years_ that they did not put out a large phone, because that's where all of the android market went. Then, when they finally made the iPhone 6 their sales were so large that the next year's phone was deemed a flop even though it did extremely well. (If one would rem…

1) I can't remember anyone reliable who thought the iPhone 6s was a flop, as opposed to the fact that the iPhone 6 had an immediate surge due to pent up demand.

2) The fact that Apple went so many years without a big screen phone, with people demanding it, and then when Apple.did release it they underestimated demand, proves that Apple can be mistaken in their assessment of the market. You're correct that just because people here seem to indicate they want a small phone doesn't mean a market for it exists. But I do remember the exact same comments being made about a larger screen size phone as well before the iPhone 6. IOW, just because Apple doesn't offer a small phone, doesn't mean the market for that doesn't exist either

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by adrianN »

yoz-y wrote: post #304
jeffkeen wrote: post #167

Seriously. This giant phone trend is nonsense. Nonsense! I'm a 6'5" man with large hands who still swears by an SE, despite being mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". I had a 6S and promptly ditched it for an SE after feeling like the thing was designed to slip out of my enormous hands. That whole "reachability" feature they added when they started with this phablet obsession was basic…

Thing is, it is not nonsense. People here always cry for 'voting with your wallet'. Well, people did and here we are. Apple was massively criticised for _years_ that they did not put out a large phone, because that's where all of the android market went. Then, when they finally made the iPhone 6 their sales were so large that the next year's phone was deemed a flop even though it did extremely well. (If one would rem…

They could offer a big phone and a small phone to hit both target markets.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by SomeOldThrow »

yoz-y wrote: post #304
jeffkeen wrote: post #167

Seriously. This giant phone trend is nonsense. Nonsense! I'm a 6'5" man with large hands who still swears by an SE, despite being mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". I had a 6S and promptly ditched it for an SE after feeling like the thing was designed to slip out of my enormous hands. That whole "reachability" feature they added when they started with this phablet obsession was basic…

Thing is, it is not nonsense. People here always cry for 'voting with your wallet'. Well, people did and here we are. Apple was massively criticised for _years_ that they did not put out a large phone, because that's where all of the android market went. Then, when they finally made the iPhone 6 their sales were so large that the next year's phone was deemed a flop even though it did extremely well. (If one would rem…

> offering people what they actually want was not a mistake.

You can’t read customer preference from the market when they stopped offering choice in this regard. I bought a large phone because that’s the choice they offered and fucking hate it.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by adrianN »

theshrike79 wrote: post #102
sramsay wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A thousand times this. My absolute number one requirement (after things like, um, the ability to make phone calls) is that it fit in my front-left pocket. I didn't upgrade to the last model for this reason and no other. But I can only assume that Apple does plenty of market research on their products, so I assume people aren't checking off "the thing is too damn big" under "reasons I didn't upgrade?"

I've had the 8+ and now XS in my front left pocket just fine. Maybe buy some looser pants? =)

The GameBoy solution: Just have a tailor make pants with pockets that fit the device.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by willmacdonald »

paulddraper wrote: post #82
dijit wrote: post #40

Every year I wait on bated breath at the release of a similarly compact phone to the SE. I even recently bought a new one right before they removed them from the store, so I have 2 year apple care+ for it to tide me over. Ordinarily I would vote with my wallet, but there are no compact Android phones either. Ironically I still own a Oneplus One which is quite old by todays standards; and I distinctly remember it bein…

Android is equally disappointing. There has never been a successor to the Nexus 4.

The best designed Android phone was the Moto X 2013. Perfect design, but a terrible camera.
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