Would they accept an asylum seeker from the United States?
An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration
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Re: An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration
#12I know the author. Good guy. Level headed and data driven. I found it to be an interesting read. He says he's been getting lots of interesting emails since this piece. Edit: A little more context: this was in response to some other right-leaning piece (if you read the comments on the article you can see references to that).
Specifically, in response to something like this from Alberto Alesina et al
https://scholar.harvard.edu/stantcheva/publications/immigrat...
Immigration is great on balance but it doesn't mean there's not legitimate concerns on number, diversity and education level.
Re: An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration
#13On paper Canada is near perfect. But in practice it is a country that is suffering so much from having to maintain continent size infrastructure on the tax base that would match a very small European country that the only way they are going to solve this long term without reducing the size of their territory or falling apart is to import very large numbers of people and hope to integrate them. So far they are quite s…
Lots of people who don't pay taxes is not good.
"nine of 10 recent Chinese immigrants arrive in Metro Vancouver with enough money to immediately buy homes. But only half hold down jobs during their first five years in Canada, while four of 10 report they’re surviving on low incomes."
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-how...
Re: An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration
#14As an immigrant in Canada (normal process, not refugee) I can say the process is fair, especially compared to other countries (see neighbor). The requirement on language makes sense and also the minimum amount of savings and no dangerous disease. Basically you are set to successfully start out. Just talking about my experience, but after living in other 3 countries, the openness of Canadians to immigrants and the cul…
Sadly Canadian points-based system is a non starter with Democrats and some nativist Republicans in the US.
Re: An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration
#15I think history has shown many times that generally open societies are good for both the economy and for future strength of the country. It is nice to see a well reasoned analysis of specific applications in Canada.
I generally agree but I do think those benefits are also correlated to a societies ability to support influx of new immigrants. Wealthy, land rich places like Canada of all places should not have problems housing both immigrants and current citizens or rapidly build infrastructure to support increasing capacity needs. But we aren't/can't due to various interests that weren't nearly as entrenched in past histories of explosive immigration, and the friction that results will lead to blowback.
E: Canadian immigration also heavily preferences brain draining talent and wealth from other countries, it's obviously in our self-interest. But it also creates losers, both in the developing countries losing out on talent and wealth, but also existing citizens who has to compete with increasingly inflated human resource pool. Again on paper this should be addressable.
Re: An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration
#16Certain people are always pushing fears about immigrants but the actual experience of big immigrant nations like Australia (30% foreign born) and Canada (25%) show that immigration, including large influxes of refugees, doesn't cause social or economic problems.
Unless you let in low quality immigrants (meaning uneducated, prone to violence, etc)
Re: An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration
#17> resettling more refugees than any other country in the world > Since 2017, approximately 150,000 asylum seekers have claimed protection This is pretty low number. Many countries took millions of refugees.
australia's yearly intake until recently for around a decade has been more than that.
The numbers from this website show much lower (not more than 20,000 in any given year since 1982). Where are you getting your data?
https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/australian-immigration-hum...
Note that there is a distinction between refugees (the third column) and total immigration (the second column). Even total immigration never tops 200,000 per year.
Re: An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration
#18Would they accept an asylum seeker from the United States?
Yes, if you have enough points (young, educated, skilled, self-sufficient).
Re: An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration
#19Vancouver fans of Mao Zedong gather to sing his praises, to the horror of fellow Chinese immigrants
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article...
Former Ontario Liberal cabinet minister headlines pro-Beijing rally near Toronto
https://nationalpost.com/news/former-ontario-liberal-cabinet...
It’s all the way with Huawei, as Sabrina Meng Wanzhou’s supporters converge on Canadian courtroom
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article...
Richmond BC mayoral candidate:
>“For a long time, Chinese people have been humble, observing discipline and the law. However, the right of equality, happiness and democracy didn’t arrive as expected... >“Only Chinese people can understand what Chinese people want...Today, Richmond politics has finally heard a Chinese voice, Hong Guo.”
https://www.richmond-news.com/election-2018/richmond-lawyer-...
Richmond BC city councelor:
>According to the Sing Tao article, Au said, “the Chinese population in Richmond has increased but their influence hasn’t increased much. People should consider how to make Richmond a Chinese city.” https://www.richmond-news.com/news/chak-au-nobody-can-claim-...
Re: An open society, Canada’s best response to immigration
#20I know the author. Good guy. Level headed and data driven. I found it to be an interesting read. He says he's been getting lots of interesting emails since this piece. Edit: A little more context: this was in response to some other right-leaning piece (if you read the comments on the article you can see references to that).
Specifically, in response to something like this from Alberto Alesina et al https://scholar.harvard.edu/stantcheva/publications/immigrat... Immigration is great on balance but it doesn't mean there's not legitimate concerns on number, diversity and education level.
Regarding Alesina, there is a "Pepes Seminar"
> Paris Empirical Political Economy Seminar, a monthly seminar series co-organized by the Department of Economics at Sciences Po and the Paris School of Economics.
which is funny or scary or silly depending your state of mind.