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Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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Post by guntars »

scarface74 wrote: post #88
guntars wrote: post #80

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As they say, you can find something wrong with everything.

Yeah, but don’t you find it a bigger deal that “what’s wrong” is the bro culture, crazy work ours, and ageism?

We’ve all heard horror stories, of course, but I think it would be a mistake to generalize it to the whole industry because we don’t hear about the startups that have perfectly mundane work hours and reasonable diversity.

Don’t get me wrong, those things are problems that need to be addressed, but in my limited experience it doesn’t seem to be as common as it might appear.

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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Post by quickthrower2 »

scarface74 wrote: post #44
dyeje wrote: post #29

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So what? I don't care to compete with those developers or work for the companies who hire them.

Good luck with that.

In 17years I’m yet to have an interview where I’m quizzed on any JS framework or a store that isn’t relational, as a web and back end dev. Not heard the word GraphQL uttered In person ever :-).

A lot of jobs exist where they just want to know you can code and assume you’ll learn what you need as you go along. Experience in their languages seems most important.

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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Post by girishso »

scarface74 wrote: post #4
mieseratte wrote: post #3

I don't. Turning my hobby into my career killed my hobby and, really, that's fine. It affords me a good life and the ability to discover and enjoy new hobbies. If you're worried about "keeping up," then I would suggest you 1) ignore the rat-race that is framework-of-the-day and 2) focus on learning fundamentals of your domain. Sure, you'll miss out on some hip startup jobs but typical employers don't care about your…

Ignoring the framework of the day and “learning the fundamentals” won’t get you past the either HR filters or make you competitive with developers who are constantly doing Resume Driven Development and have a resume that is buzzword compliant. Especially if you are an older developer (I’m 45) and you will just be seen as just another old out of touch developer. That being said, the further down the stack you go, the…

> That being said, the further down the stack you go, the more stability there is in technology.

Maybe my English is not that good, how do you mean? Asking as a 43yo developer.

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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Post by sethammons »

girishso wrote: post #93
scarface74 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ignoring the framework of the day and “learning the fundamentals” won’t get you past the either HR filters or make you competitive with developers who are constantly doing Resume Driven Development and have a resume that is buzzword compliant. Especially if you are an older developer (I’m 45) and you will just be seen as just another old out of touch developer. That being said, the further down the stack you go, the…

> That being said, the further down the stack you go, the more stability there is in technology. Maybe my English is not that good, how do you mean? Asking as a 43yo developer.

I take it to mean that back end development has less new stuff going in n compared to front end. Deep back end, like networking or systems development has even less new. Kernel or embedded, even less new. Not sure how true it is, but that is how I read it.

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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Post by pkrotich »

halfjoking wrote: post #58

My hatred of the dayjob is what motivates me on side projects. (The goal is to make enough money to quit) I also find it useful to keep a journal. Recent research shows procrastination to be an emotional management problem.[1] If you can work through the reasons why you're feeling unmotivated, you'll be to turn things around. [1] https://www.fastcompany.com/90357248/procrastination-is-an-e...

Thanks for the link - it’s a good read.

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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Post by sethammons »

juangacovas wrote: post #81
scarface74 wrote: post #4

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Ignoring the framework of the day and “learning the fundamentals” won’t get you past the either HR filters or make you competitive with developers who are constantly doing Resume Driven Development and have a resume that is buzzword compliant. Especially if you are an older developer (I’m 45) and you will just be seen as just another old out of touch developer. That being said, the further down the stack you go, the…

"the further down the stack you go" is the reason I love English (being Spanish)

Can you explain that more? I'm not following.

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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Post by LuNan »

juangacovas wrote: post #81
scarface74 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ignoring the framework of the day and “learning the fundamentals” won’t get you past the either HR filters or make you competitive with developers who are constantly doing Resume Driven Development and have a resume that is buzzword compliant. Especially if you are an older developer (I’m 45) and you will just be seen as just another old out of touch developer. That being said, the further down the stack you go, the…

"the further down the stack you go" is the reason I love English (being Spanish)

I am not following as well, I am from China. Thanks.

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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Post by sashmaaan »

flyGuyOnTheSly wrote: post #49
redmondperl wrote: post #35

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> working on an algorithmic trading bot right now. Any suggestions on how to approach building algorithmic trading bots?

Start getting some data in front of your face and start looking at it. Really look at it... pore over it... think it... be it... once you start dreaming about price and volume data, you'll know you're on the right track... ...until you think you might notice an edge or something somewhere... then write unit tests to see if that hunch about the pattern your monkey brain thinks it saw is actually consistently profitabl…

What language or frameworks do you use for that? Metatrader or things like that?

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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Post by muzani »

naikrovek wrote: post #87

Learn to not need motivation in order to get work done. This is what my father and his father called "work ethic." In short, the memory I always think back to went something like this: me whining about digging a ditch, followed by: "I'm paying you to dig a ditch. I don't care if you're motivated about digging the ditch. Dig it, and I'll pay you." It's the same with anything. If you can't work without motivation then…

I find this works fine with physical labor but not anything requiring creativity. I used to work 14 hours/day as a barista, no problem, but 4 hours straight untangling code is impossible.
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