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Post by microtonal »

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I also have an 6s. Haven't found much reason to upgrade. I like the smaller form factor. I guess upgrading to the 7 or 8 may be nice at some point for water resistance (a heavy rain shower killed my SE).

I switched from 6S to XR, and I wasn't expecting much, but oh boy, you don't realize how much of a difference a boost in processing speed and screen size can make. Massive productivity gains, even though I'm primarily a desktop person. That plus the huge battery on the XR fundamentally changes how you think about your phone.

I don't really use my phone much anymore besides for calling, messaging and occasionally checking email. Whatever productivity boost I'll get on my phone doesn't matter much in practice.

Battery life is also no problem. The 6s makes it through the day and I charge it overnight.

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Post by _bxg1 »

pdimitar wrote: post #650
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In fairness they did incremental upgrades 2 years in a row, which they didn't used to do. But yeah, cycles are naturally slowing. Supposedly they have big things coming in 2020; USB-C, a whole new redesign, etc. I'll still probably stick with my XS, though.

Any source? I'd kill for a flagship iPhone with plain rectangular screen (no notch or rounded corners!) and with an USB-C port. If it is also vactually rugged then I'll wet myself.

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/9/6/20853343/ap...

USB-C is just my personal guess. It's been such a glaring, weird omission for years, and between the 11's lightning-to-C cable and the prospect of a redesign, 2020 seems like the perfect opportunity to finally do it.

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Post by SomeOldThrow »

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“Pro” is not just for productivity but comfort of use as well. As an analogy if you sit on a chair 8 hours a day you’ll want a super nice chair, even if it wouldn’t have direct effects on productivity compared to a just decent one. For most people relying on a smartphone for work, be it 700 or 1000 the device will pay for itself in a few months at most, so I think the price difference won’t matter much. Better batter…

Honest question, who relies on a smartphone for work? I mean, obviously people rely on a phone for work, people rely on email for work, but what jobs are there where getting the iPhone pro model would make a difference to getting, say, the now much lower priced iPhone 8.. or for that matter a used 2/3 year old flagship android phone?

It's entirely the camera + case material that differentiates pro from non.

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Post by ghettoimp »

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I can't believe we don't have higher refresh rates on iPhones yet. Apple got user experience with touch screens better then anyone else when the iPhone originally launched. Apple brought it to iPad, i'd like to see it in iPhone.

It's absurd Apple is selling "Pro" phones without refresh rates over 60. What year is it? 2016? A whole bunch of phone manufacturers are making 90+ hz screens.

Would 90hz use more battery? When they talked about the always-on watch screen, I think one of the things they said was it slowed down its refresh rate to 1 hz. I don't know anything about if that saves power, but maybe?

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Post by bengalister »

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A lot of that is just technological maturity, I think. When smartphones first arrived, there were many, many, obvious upgrades that would make the experience better for the user of the device. This is the golden age of any technology; the lack of something great, and seeing it approach from the horizon, then repeating with the next thing. Smartphones definitely seem to be converging on a form factor and a feature set…

Besides just incremental changes, what could people possibly expect from the next version of a smartphone, especially with the technology that we currently have? I get that 5-10 years ago it was a totally different field, when technology wasn't matured, and everything they announced was something groundbreaking. But now, besides from the yearly camera and chip improvements, I honestly can't think of anything I would…

For me, it would be the phone replacing my laptop and tablet with docking stations or foldable screens and adaptative OS (like Samsung Dex). Phones are powerful enough to do that. I also imagined a portable docking station with just a screen, maybe some battery and something to attach your phone to transform into a tablet.

The main reason is that I don't like managing different devices, installing different apps, using different OS, I just want to customize my working environment once.

That or having a single OS that works on different devices and synchronizes cleverly every settings, installed apps configuration in the cloud and adapt them to the device.

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Post by nikofeyn »

i am sick and tired of hearing apple claim "best", "first-ever", "most advanced", etc. in all their marketing. it's all unfounded, usually even false, and always misleading. there were smartphones last year that had the three-camera system (lg v40, which has more features in general as well). big deal.

for the most cringe-inducing experience of this, go read apple's marketing/product page for their new credit card. they act as if they've invented plastic for the first time.

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Post by toasterlovin »

arvinsim wrote: post #698
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Most buyers of these phones will not film simultaneously on multiple cameras. 64GB is for them. If you're going to use that particular feature, you're buying the largest capacity phone you can.

> Most buyers of these phones will not film simultaneously on multiple cameras. They why buy the Pro? Why not just get the normal 11?

The Pro has a bunch of other features besides filming simultaneously on multiple cameras.

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Post by paggle »

neogodless wrote: post #170

It's been clear for quite some time that terms like "Extreme", "Pro" and "Max" are marketing terms. They are not accurate classifications of how they will be used. If people feel strongly enough that the name is not accurate, they will have to buy a competing product that fulfills their needs at the price they are willing to pay. I suppose what would be interesting, but highly proprietary, would be Apple's marketing…

“Pro” means more powerful. That doesn’t mean that you buy it if you need it work work. I know Fellows making $1m/year who have a MacBook Air because they prefer the low weight when they’re doing emails etc, and code from a desktop workstation.

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Post by throwaway12939 »

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They need some fresh blood in the C ranks. The presenters themselves don't look like they themselves are actually excited about things they are presenting.

It doesn't help that they have clearly filled the audience with Apple employees who were instructed to whoop and holler and when to do it. I understand the motivations for doing so. A product announcement like this would otherwise be attended by a majority surly journalists, too busy taking notes to exhibit much excitement. But at this point, the whooping and hollering come across as extremely fake--too much so for a…

I don't know whether the applause is some kind of fake/contrived strategy. Maybe it is. But I am sure the launch is an exciting day for everyone at Apple. The employees in the audience have spent the past year(s) working on this stuff, and are finally getting to see the result. They're seeing their work in the spotlight, surrounded by the press. Wouldn't you feel special and give a hoot when your little contribution gets a shout out?
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