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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by techdragon »

snuxoll wrote: post #217
krzyk wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Xs was incremental improvement, this year people expected more.

If the iPhone 6-8 and now the X/XS/11 are anything to go by then I think the days of the tick-tock refreshes are over. Apple has made it pretty clear they don’t see upgrading their phones every 1-2 years anymore. Personally if my iPhone 7+ hadn’t gone and bricked itself I wouldn’t have bothered trading it in (after replacement under warranty) for the XS. My wife is still rocking an iPhone 7 and I see no reason to upg…

Then it would be nice if they extended the AppleCare to let us protect the devices as long as Apple expects us to be keeping it.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by nothis »

lucisferre wrote: post #541
Zelphyr wrote: post #533

For the first time ever I feel like I just wasted my time watching an Apple product announcement. I'm not saying those products are bad or are poorly engineered or anything like that. I'm just saying the products they showed off today aren't anything I would want. I have an iPhone 7 Plus and comparing it to the iPhone 11 versions I don't see anything in the latter that I'd upgrade for. The best I could come up with w…

This is a very routine reply around here to every new iPhone announcement. Would you perhaps be able to elaborate on the features or improvements you did want to see but didn't? I mean I have an iPhone 8 and what I see are: - An edge-to-edge screen - Longer battery life - Faster processors - Improved cameras (don't care much myself but it is still improved) - FaceID - Updated Wifi and LTE technologies (not sure how m…

>I don't need to upgrade for any of these things, which is probably a good thing in terms of e-waste, but it is still definitely a clear upgrade from my current phone.

I don't think anyone doubts the "clear upgrade" part. It's the "need" part we're talking about, here.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by myrandomcomment »

gnicholas wrote: post #669
myrandomcomment wrote: post #664

So I am so disinterested that I cannot even be troubled to go and look at the specs. There is nothing in any of the headlines, etc. that even drives me to look. No reason to upgrade from my 2017 iPhoneX. I used to enjoy this stuff. All I want is an iPhone 5 form-factor with all screen and FaceID. Smaller is better.

There are rumors of an SE refresh next spring, and I would love if they did what you suggest. But I’m fairly certain that they won’t kill the notch on the SE before they do so on their flagship phones. Perhaps it would be a 2020 SE refresh feature? Until then, there’s be a big ugly notch on a fairly small face.

Heck, the notch does not bug me. Just give me an X in the 5/SE size and I would be set!

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by fyfy18 »

Karupan wrote: post #608

I was REALLY looking forward to the iPhone 11 Pro, but at AUD 1999, it’s beyond expensive for me. And I say this as someone who’s owned four iPhones and currently on an iPhone 7 Plus. The product line is also confusing. There is no longer a iPhone 6/7/8 equivalent. And no, the 11/XR doesn’t count mainly because of the size. I’d have stuck with my current phone if not for terrible cellular connectivity on the crappy i…

As a European I feel the same. Even €839 for the base model is going to be too expensive for most people.

It seems like they are really trying to carve out a new luxury market for their devices, the equivalent of luxury car brands like Mercedes. I don't think there is anything wrong with that, but I struggle to see how this will play out long term for their ecosystem.

It's not the same as cars or Android, where there are other manufacturers with budget models. And before anyone mentions it, no, continuing to sell the iPhone 8 doesn't count. It's still a €500 phone. Compare that to Xiaomi Redmi and Samsung A and J models which you can get for under €200.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by atombender »

danielparks wrote: post #678
atombender wrote: post #661

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you're on an iPhone 7: The jump to FaceID and home-buttonless UI is actually probably bigger than you think. The jump from 7 to X/XR/11 is going to be much bigger than, say, 7 to 8. By removing the home button, Apple turned iPhone into a device completely controlled by gestures. It's arguably the biggest UX change since the first iPhone, and one that was surprisingly unreported at the time. It makes the phone f…

I use my iPhone X regularly at contactless terminals at stores and on the bus. The trick is to double click the lock button first, select a card if you want, then hold it by the reader. I don’t have any problems with FaceID — it’s more reliable and easier than TouchID for me. I live in a rainy place, though. Obviously a YMMV situation. With TouchID do you just put your finger on the home button and hold it by the rea…

Interesting, I thought I'd tried that before and it didn't work because it wasn't near a reader. I'll try again, thanks!

I'd argue that it's still a slightly more complicated interaction than with TouchID, though, requiring a bit more mental preparation, perhaps.

As for TouchID: Yes, that's how it works. It's a more fluid action because typically you'll have added your thumb as the fingerprint, and it's easy to hold the phone with your thumb on the home button while holding it near the reader.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

nothis wrote: post #680
Zelphyr wrote: post #533

For the first time ever I feel like I just wasted my time watching an Apple product announcement. I'm not saying those products are bad or are poorly engineered or anything like that. I'm just saying the products they showed off today aren't anything I would want. I have an iPhone 7 Plus and comparing it to the iPhone 11 versions I don't see anything in the latter that I'd upgrade for. The best I could come up with w…

This never happened to you with the past few presentations? I basically haven't seen a new feature I genuinely need since the iPhone 6 (or whatever Mac/iPad was announced since then, for that matter). Smartphones are pretty much done. The one thing I'd upgrade for is apparently not possible with current technology: A display that works perfectly in sunlight, being illuminated by it instead of trying to compete with i…

I would give my left arm for an e-ink phone that had Google Assistant or Siri for navigation, and worked with Android Auto / Carplay, an awesome email client, some chat apps, and a good keyboard.

It'd be much easier to use my phone for what I want to use my phone for -- productivity and being connected (and occasionally looking things up online). Instead, my phone successfully hypnotizes me with it's bright colors and videos. More and more, I find myself using my phone not because I actually want to, but because it sneak attacked me with some notification that sucked me into doing something that's just wasting my time.

Also, with e-ink, the battery should last at least a couple of days. And, to your point, you could use it under any lighting conditions -- at least I can with my Kindle Paperwhite.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by baby »

nothis wrote: post #680
Zelphyr wrote: post #533

For the first time ever I feel like I just wasted my time watching an Apple product announcement. I'm not saying those products are bad or are poorly engineered or anything like that. I'm just saying the products they showed off today aren't anything I would want. I have an iPhone 7 Plus and comparing it to the iPhone 11 versions I don't see anything in the latter that I'd upgrade for. The best I could come up with w…

This never happened to you with the past few presentations? I basically haven't seen a new feature I genuinely need since the iPhone 6 (or whatever Mac/iPad was announced since then, for that matter). Smartphones are pretty much done. The one thing I'd upgrade for is apparently not possible with current technology: A display that works perfectly in sunlight, being illuminated by it instead of trying to compete with i…

iPhone 6s user here. Why would I ever change phone? It still works perfectly well.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by preek »

Stevvo wrote: post #378
preek wrote: post #361

My browser has a count of 124 "PRO"s in the article[1], yet I gave up finding any information on how to earn money with an iPhone. I thought that's what professionals are supposed to do/be. I think that's also what the original Macbook Pros were about. Seems to me that the semantics behind the word is changing. Don't know what it is supposed to mean now, though. Of course it is the best iPhone ever made. It's the mos…

I figure they went with "Pro" because it makes it clear which is the top model; With Xs/Xr you can't tell without looking it up.

Case in point: I have the more expensive X (because it is less big as the only reason) and I don’t know which model that is. First time I didn’t know what to buy in the store and probably my only tech gadget that I don’t even know the name of.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by remir »

summerlight wrote: post #429

Lots of people disappointed in the new iPhone. The reason I see is simple; Apple has long been outsourced a large fraction of its hardware innovation capabilities to other companies rather than having a full vertical ownership of the production line, unlike its competitors (Samsung, Huawei, etc). This works very well when most of the required technologies are already there for bringing their idea to the reality so Ap…

Apple hasn't really been on the bleeding edge for a while now. Android phones had bigger screens, wireless charging, quick charging, NFC payment years before the iPhone had those features.

Apple strengths are in integration, design and marketing. Like mentioned, other phones had NFC payments way before the iPhone, but I'd say mobile phone payment really took off when Apple Pay came out. That's the power of marketing and influence at work.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by kushan2020 »

atombender wrote: post #661
Zelphyr wrote: post #533

For the first time ever I feel like I just wasted my time watching an Apple product announcement. I'm not saying those products are bad or are poorly engineered or anything like that. I'm just saying the products they showed off today aren't anything I would want. I have an iPhone 7 Plus and comparing it to the iPhone 11 versions I don't see anything in the latter that I'd upgrade for. The best I could come up with w…

Since you're on an iPhone 7: The jump to FaceID and home-buttonless UI is actually probably bigger than you think. The jump from 7 to X/XR/11 is going to be much bigger than, say, 7 to 8. By removing the home button, Apple turned iPhone into a device completely controlled by gestures. It's arguably the biggest UX change since the first iPhone, and one that was surprisingly unreported at the time. It makes the phone f…

I have also been doing it this way, until someone told me that you can show your face to phone first and then put it next to the reader. Try it next time, I hope it will save you some seconds.
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