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Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by baot »

saagarjha wrote: post #79
ebiester wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2013/02/how-do-users-r... People with smaller hands, regardless of gender, often use two hands. Once you're used to using two hands, there's no reason to have a smaller screen.

They use two hands because you give them a phone that's hard to use with one hand. And using two hands is not always an option.

I type with two thumbs on a phone because I type with two hands on a keyboard. In fact, one hand is tied up on a computer - on a mouse - more often than I can't use one with my phone. It's an acceptable tradeoff.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by damontal »

RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u wrote: post #62
dijit wrote: post #40

Every year I wait on bated breath at the release of a similarly compact phone to the SE. I even recently bought a new one right before they removed them from the store, so I have 2 year apple care+ for it to tide me over. Ordinarily I would vote with my wallet, but there are no compact Android phones either. Ironically I still own a Oneplus One which is quite old by todays standards; and I distinctly remember it bein…

> (also, I wonder how women get on, since generally they have smaller hands than men.) PopSockets. In my neck of the woods they are almost as common as phone cases. Some men also use them.

I use one. I can “hang” the phone between 2 fingers and read with my hand relaxed and not having to grip the phone. I do this on a 5S

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by 627467 »

I used to think that compact sized phone such as SE (or Sony compact range) were perfect size for me. Until I got a Galaxy S8 and realized that, as long as width is ok, I can stand a long screen. Even the S9 (at about 1mm wider) feels too wide.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by macintux »

saagarjha wrote: post #79
ebiester wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2013/02/how-do-users-r... People with smaller hands, regardless of gender, often use two hands. Once you're used to using two hands, there's no reason to have a smaller screen.

They use two hands because you give them a phone that's hard to use with one hand. And using two hands is not always an option.

I’ve found every iPhone since the original 3.5” form factor too hard to use with one hand. I simply can’t reach all corners one-handed with anything larger.

I’ve been out of luck since the iPhone 4, so I often go for the largest. Might as well get the best camera and battery life.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by ken »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #158
aczerepinski wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't even call the SE compact. It's just normal. It's the size that Steve Jobs said fits comfortably in your hand, and since hand sizes haven't changed, it's still true today.

Wasn't that talking about the iPhone 4, before they added the extra row of icons on the 5 and SE form factor? As is, I have no inclination to give up my SE, and if it fails I'll almost certainly pick up another off eBay or similar.

No, it was the iPhone 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99m7lebirE

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by macintux »

cbhl wrote: post #225
vadansky wrote: post #125

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I keep having to ask this every thread, but you know you can double tap the home button and it will bring the screen half way down so you can reach easier. I have no problem using my 8 one handed, and can even use it one handed while biking

The X, XS, XR, and now 11 don't have a home button. They all rely on Face ID to unlock.

They still have the “reachability” feature, however. It’s a gesture (that I never use intentionally, but I think it’s a swipe down at the bottom of the screen).

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by ken »

aczerepinski wrote: post #110
dijit wrote: post #40

Every year I wait on bated breath at the release of a similarly compact phone to the SE. I even recently bought a new one right before they removed them from the store, so I have 2 year apple care+ for it to tide me over. Ordinarily I would vote with my wallet, but there are no compact Android phones either. Ironically I still own a Oneplus One which is quite old by todays standards; and I distinctly remember it bein…

I wouldn't even call the SE compact. It's just normal. It's the size that Steve Jobs said fits comfortably in your hand, and since hand sizes haven't changed, it's still true today.

David Pogue's review of the original iPhone mentioned "the HUGE 3.5-inch screen" (his emphasis).

https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/01/09/some-hands-on-time...

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by Wistar »

jeffkeen wrote: post #167

Seriously. This giant phone trend is nonsense. Nonsense! I'm a 6'5" man with large hands who still swears by an SE, despite being mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". I had a 6S and promptly ditched it for an SE after feeling like the thing was designed to slip out of my enormous hands. That whole "reachability" feature they added when they started with this phablet obsession was basic…

Amen. The SE is the ideal size for me because, with an Otter Box case, it fits in a shirt vest pocket or a jeans front pocket although I prefer the shirt pocket. I'd love it if they'd make a new one in the exact same size. I know I will try to keep this one going as long as I can but would buy a new one immediately were it to be offered. I should have bought the last of the old ones that Apple was closing out for cheap. Darn me for not.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by colinmegill »

> iOS lockin is very powerful

Loved the smaller form factor and switched to Pixel when the phones got bigger and more expensive.

But I didn't feel the software lockin — I was using Google maps, mail, cal, docs, etc., plus Spotify etc., etc., and that became easier when I switched to the Pixel, less fighting with the OS.

Have others found the switch difficult?

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by ken »

oplav wrote: post #56
stephc_int13 wrote: post #38

My SE will probably be my last iOS device. iOS used to be much better than competition, but I don't think that's the case now. I never liked big-ass phones, and in my opinion the best iPhone design was the iPhone4, this one was a real masterpiece. But I won't pay a premium for a phone I don't like, when my SE will no longer do its job, it will be replaced by a cheap Android device.

Do you use any other Apple products? I feel the same way about paying a premium for a phone I don't like, but iMessage is what is keeping me from switching (back) to Android. My personal computer is a 2014 MacBook. My work computer is a MacBook. Being able to message freely from my laptop to others on iMessage is a really nice feature.

I can't figure out what's great about iMessage. Is it just what I get when I send a text message to someone who also has an iPhone, and it uses a blue bubble to show it's encrypted?

In practice, I have maybe one friend who regularly uses text messaging. Everybody in my neck of the woods uses Hangouts, Messenger, Threema, etc.

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