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iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
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#632Who really needs this phone over an iPhone XS? I'm trying to understand, besides those who want the latest product, who this product is appealing to.
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#633This thread needs to lighten up. The 11 is an incremental improvement - is that so wrong? Who still upgrades their phone every year anyway? I bought my iPhone 8 two years ago thinking of it as a 5 year investment.
Xs was incremental improvement, this year people expected more.
If you don't change the case style, how will anyone know you have the newest model!
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#634Earlier quoted context omitted.
People say they expect more, but what, exactly? Do people still expect more from a laptop? They're laptops - they've not changed in 15 years. They just get faster, smaller and more easy to break. Phones have caught up. Nothings happening except more megapixels, plus slightly faster CPUs so..i dunno...snapchat loads faster or whatever, or more lenses or whatever, plus the sort of twilight zone $999 = £1049 pricing in…
People say they expect more, but what, exactly? I don't know about "people," but for one thing they only mentioned privacy in passing. Or how about IOS improvements? The world is probably waiting for ways not to have to touch the screen so much, and in a finger-mouse style. Let's see some cutting edge HCI.
Well it's a hardware event. The software doesn't really have to change in lock-step with the hardware.
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#635For the first time ever I feel like I just wasted my time watching an Apple product announcement. I'm not saying those products are bad or are poorly engineered or anything like that. I'm just saying the products they showed off today aren't anything I would want. I have an iPhone 7 Plus and comparing it to the iPhone 11 versions I don't see anything in the latter that I'd upgrade for. The best I could come up with w…
This is a very routine reply around here to every new iPhone announcement. Would you perhaps be able to elaborate on the features or improvements you did want to see but didn't? I mean I have an iPhone 8 and what I see are: - An edge-to-edge screen - Longer battery life - Faster processors - Improved cameras (don't care much myself but it is still improved) - FaceID - Updated Wifi and LTE technologies (not sure how m…
I actually don't want an edge-to-edge screen or FaceID, though, and 5S is already a bit bigger than I'd like. So no, it's not a clear upgrade. I'd probably grin and bear it, but it does feel like people don't sell phone's I'd actually like anymore.
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#636Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly can't put my finger on it. All those features you listed are great but none of them make me WANT that device. I used to want the new product they announced as soon as they showed it off. Maybe when I hold one in my hands that will change.
> one of them make me WANT that device You could have said the same about your iPhone 7. What features of the 7 made you WANT to switch compared to earlier models?
Well, I actually needed it. I jumped into a pool with my 6S in my pocket. Other than that, you make a fair point.
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#637These threads always seem to miss the point. It's not about the specs, it never was, and never will be. Apple builds, or at least tries to build, seamless experiences. It's the reason there's limited hardware, excellent software support for past versions, and a creeping product line to extend to every device you come into contact with. The demos showcase cool specs and features, but that is not where the value lies -…
> building out a low cost, separate brand That is just not in Apple's DNA.
Hence the separate brand. Lexus to Toyota, Infiniti to Nissan, Acura to Honda, Porsche to VW.
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
#638For the first time ever I feel like I just wasted my time watching an Apple product announcement. I'm not saying those products are bad or are poorly engineered or anything like that. I'm just saying the products they showed off today aren't anything I would want. I have an iPhone 7 Plus and comparing it to the iPhone 11 versions I don't see anything in the latter that I'd upgrade for. The best I could come up with w…
Local bug men saddened because consumer life does not bring joy anymore.
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#639I love the SE because it has style, unlike every other later iPhone. I stopped using it because system font size of 9.3pt is too small to read without glasses. Apart from being unreadable it was great for form factor, battery life.
Apple is now in classic enterprise survival mode churning out incremental stuff. Their innovation is in hardware - i really long for them to bring some innovation to the user experience.
That said peeps should not reach too much into comments by HN folks about not liking ifobs....those devices are built for teenagers and people who want something that "just works". They dont want to mess with stuff under the hood and that is why iPhone and IOS now is as exciting as a bar of soap. Android on the other hand is a playground for folks who like to tinker, myself included.
Apple have nailed their market with perfection. I just hope that some people inside of Apple are working on something truly innovative for the future.
And onto why they canned the SE.....
The supply chain overhead of carrying and manufacturing a device which uses different tech is enormous. It can be almost as much as a seperate line of business - and that applies to not only Apple but also its component suppliers. If the business isnt big enough then it should be cut at some point. Given the FOMO around consumers using Apple and its software the SE became a niche device. It can have the 8/X/11 innards shoehorned in - everything, and my everything would need to be redesigned from scratch and one can imagine the cost of doing that and bringing to market. So i understand Apple's move from a commercial point of view. Very sad to see the brand axing the ONLY mobile product that had some sense of style and uniquess. The iFobs they now make are just boring. I much prefer Xiaomi because i get more phone for 20% of the price.
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#640Earlier quoted context omitted.
Xs was incremental improvement, this year people expected more.
Apple is on a 3 year cycle now, probably to help accelerate development on their AR project. Redesign -> CPU leap -> Camera leap iPhone 6 -> 6S -> 7 iPhone X -> XS -> 11
> Apple is on a 3 year cycle now, probably to help accelerate development on their AR project.
If Apple has made that decision then there's a context which isn't generally appreciated. It's not just that you've stopped buying new phones so Apple needs something else to sell you: it's that AR/VR is more or less inevitably the future mainstream interface of mobile computing. The box-with-a-screen-on-the-side physical UI has hit its limits (this is Amdahl's Law of Mobile UI ;) ), which is also why there's so much interest in trying to make folding screens work.