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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by snazz »

Flavius wrote: post #98
z5h wrote: post #66

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They improved every aspect of the phone. Each is a feat of engineering unto itself. What were you hoping for?

I was hoping for USB-C and no camera bump on the back. Just make the phone 1mm thicker and add some extra battery. I guess that would be too much... We have to live with the "up to 4h" extra battery life that would probably translate in 1h of extra battery in the real world. It's just depressing.

Potentially controversial: how much more battery do you need? I have an iPhone 8 and it lasts for two solid days (48 hours) if I forget to charge it and one really heavy day if I do charge it.

I agree that a little extra thickness isn’t too bad (and on USB-C), but I’m pretty happy with my battery life. Do I just not use it as much as most people? I’m genuinely curious.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by sumedh »

Hasz wrote: post #619

These threads always seem to miss the point. It's not about the specs, it never was, and never will be. Apple builds, or at least tries to build, seamless experiences. It's the reason there's limited hardware, excellent software support for past versions, and a creeping product line to extend to every device you come into contact with. The demos showcase cool specs and features, but that is not where the value lies -…

> building out a low cost, separate brand

That is just not in Apple's DNA.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by dangus »

whycombagator wrote: post #552
dangus wrote: post #442

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Get an iPhone 8 instead, probably the best value out there for iPhones. If you are worried about shelling out money, remember that an iPhone 8 isn't $449, it's $449 minus whatever you sell it for in a year (probably not much less). And it's even less if you just buy it used or Apple refurbished in the first place. The iPhone SE works fine but the screen size is too small for many apps that get scrunched up pretty bad…

> Get an iPhone 8 instead, probably the best value out there for iPhones. I have an SE and love it, but this. However, consider the deals out there for something like the 7. Metro PCS has the iPhone 7 for $50, I'm sure there are comparable deals out there too.

IMO MVNO phones take too long to unlock, that’s a big gripe of mine on deals like that.

I’d also be worried about the 7 audio IC issue.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by blurbleblurble »

Zelphyr wrote: post #533

For the first time ever I feel like I just wasted my time watching an Apple product announcement. I'm not saying those products are bad or are poorly engineered or anything like that. I'm just saying the products they showed off today aren't anything I would want. I have an iPhone 7 Plus and comparing it to the iPhone 11 versions I don't see anything in the latter that I'd upgrade for. The best I could come up with w…

Welcome to the club!

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by egdod »

willis936 wrote: post #433
egdod wrote: post #10

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I just swapped out the deteriorating battery on a 6s for one that has even more capacity than the stock battery did new. It may go up in flames or something next week, but for now it’s a huge upgrade.

If there’s “more capacity” in the same volume it is almost certainly a lie. And sellers that lie may cut corners in other areas. And lithium ion batteries can explode.

There haven’t been any improvements in energy density in the last 4 years? That would be pretty surprising.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by Someone1234 »

vbezhenar wrote: post #355
Someone1234 wrote: post #238

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It was a hidden feature that Apple struggled to communicate (and was hard to describe without physically trying it) was always going to be problematic. How do you train users? What is the discoverability? It was a legitimate problem when most of your user-base aren't tech nerds and most people aren't reading the manual/help guides. So you implement an app feature via 3D Touch and users just assume that feature doesn'…

How do you train users about mouse right button?

with a huge amount of difficulty?

Most computer users still don't use middle-click/scroll wheel click, or even the back/forward buttons and they're almost twenty years old.

By simply pointing at another hard to train piece of hidden functionality and saying "what about THIS?!" you haven't really proven anything, except that with enough forced training anything can become common knowledge.

3D Touch is exactly like right click, but they're also competing against implicit training via passed users of Apple's own products, other touch devices, and even other computing (since no other platform has anything like 3D Touch).

They offered no on-screen guide or tutorial when it launched.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by greeno »

thekid314 wrote: post #606
fmajid wrote: post #591

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I'm still on my iPhone 6, and I am not going to get the 11 either, in fact I have been dabbling with LineageOS on a Xiaomi Pocophone F1 as a second travel phone. What would make me "upgrade" (not sure if I can really call that an upgrade in the absence of a headphone port). Must-haves: 1. USB-C 2. 5G support using a single-chip like the Qualcomm Snapdragon X55 baseband chipset (not a separate 4g and 5G chip as with t…

I was hoping their "One more thing" would be tracking tags with precise positioning and an AR viewer to see exactly where something is placed in the world.

Don't you mean "One more camera"?!?

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by wvenable »

windexh8er wrote: post #610
fmajid wrote: post #591

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I'm still on my iPhone 6, and I am not going to get the 11 either, in fact I have been dabbling with LineageOS on a Xiaomi Pocophone F1 as a second travel phone. What would make me "upgrade" (not sure if I can really call that an upgrade in the absence of a headphone port). Must-haves: 1. USB-C 2. 5G support using a single-chip like the Qualcomm Snapdragon X55 baseband chipset (not a separate 4g and 5G chip as with t…

Its 2019 and Apple is still milking their largest subset of buyers on the Lightning tax. In my opinion Apple has some fantastic engineering still happening but the blatant disregard of USB-C shows the true motives. While I understand there are likely challenges with switching the iPhone Pro doesn't fit, at all, with the connectivity solutions in the MacBook Pro or iPad Pro line. Its really unfortunate a lot of what A…

The thing is a lot of Apple product owners have a lot of Lightning cables and chargers already. For them, they're not paying any sort of tax. Changing to USB-C would be a tax for these people as they'd have to buy all new cables.

Yes, in a tech forum the majority of us have many USB-C devices. But I personally don't have that critical mass of USB-C devices compared with Lightning or microUSB.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by usaphp »

Zelphyr wrote: post #547
lucisferre wrote: post #541

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This is a very routine reply around here to every new iPhone announcement. Would you perhaps be able to elaborate on the features or improvements you did want to see but didn't? I mean I have an iPhone 8 and what I see are: - An edge-to-edge screen - Longer battery life - Faster processors - Improved cameras (don't care much myself but it is still improved) - FaceID - Updated Wifi and LTE technologies (not sure how m…

I honestly can't put my finger on it. All those features you listed are great but none of them make me WANT that device. I used to want the new product they announced as soon as they showed it off. Maybe when I hold one in my hands that will change.

> one of them make me WANT that device

You could have said the same about your iPhone 7. What features of the 7 made you WANT to switch compared to earlier models?

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