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Post by xeroaura »

misterprime wrote: post #589
tpmx wrote: post #509

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This is a surprisingly thought-provoking comment and the theory checks out. Until Apple are able to break out of this mould I feel they'll be stuck at this combination of a) uninteresting yearly iterations b) ever increasing base phone prices for little end user gain I don't thinkt hey're able to paint themselves out of this corner on the smartphone front. They have iOS as a decent but certainly not impregnable moat…

Did the base phone price increase this year? I thought it stayed the same and improved some of the materials used in regards to toxicity and sourcing concerns.

They even dropped the iPhone 11 "midrange" model down $50 compared to the XR release price from last year.

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Post by rdruxn »

Karupan wrote: post #608

I was REALLY looking forward to the iPhone 11 Pro, but at AUD 1999, it’s beyond expensive for me. And I say this as someone who’s owned four iPhones and currently on an iPhone 7 Plus. The product line is also confusing. There is no longer a iPhone 6/7/8 equivalent. And no, the 11/XR doesn’t count mainly because of the size. I’d have stuck with my current phone if not for terrible cellular connectivity on the crappy i…

The iPhone 8 is still included in their line up

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Post by aikinai »

Micoloth wrote: post #492
hownowbrowncow wrote: post #16

I'm quite sad they have removed 3D Touch from the phones. A minor feature I really enjoy with quick peeking — and bummed to lose that touch information for apps like Procreate Pocket and other drawing tools.

Wait what? I kinda saw it coming with XR.. It’s still bad tho. 3D touch is an _amazing_ feature for power users, and one of the few that markedly differentiated the iphones from competition. Biggest thing is text editing of course, where 3D selection increases productivity _several times_, but potential was even greater if implemented more. Ironic that they are marketing this one as pro. I bought a X recently and pla…

It’s basically dead in iOS 13 even for phones that still support it.

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Post by Aeolun »

sdan wrote: post #603
sgarman wrote: post #570

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I can't believe we don't have higher refresh rates on iPhones yet. Apple got user experience with touch screens better then anyone else when the iPhone originally launched. Apple brought it to iPad, i'd like to see it in iPhone.

It's absurd Apple is selling "Pro" phones without refresh rates over 60. What year is it? 2016? A whole bunch of phone manufacturers are making 90+ hz screens.

Is it? This is literally the first time in my life I’ve ever heard someone say they wanted a higher refresh rate on their phone.

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Post by rainyMammoth »

Zelphyr wrote: post #533

For the first time ever I feel like I just wasted my time watching an Apple product announcement. I'm not saying those products are bad or are poorly engineered or anything like that. I'm just saying the products they showed off today aren't anything I would want. I have an iPhone 7 Plus and comparing it to the iPhone 11 versions I don't see anything in the latter that I'd upgrade for. The best I could come up with w…

I'm always wondering what people expect from those "Apple Keynote". Is anyone actually watching Keynotes from other companies? Samsung, LG, Volkswagen or any large companies in the world? No, they don't because it is boring and made with medias as target audience.

I never understood the need for so many people to tune into those Apple live keynotes. It is of course all marketing and slideware.

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Post by mirkules »

fmajid wrote: post #591
lucisferre wrote: post #541

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This is a very routine reply around here to every new iPhone announcement. Would you perhaps be able to elaborate on the features or improvements you did want to see but didn't? I mean I have an iPhone 8 and what I see are: - An edge-to-edge screen - Longer battery life - Faster processors - Improved cameras (don't care much myself but it is still improved) - FaceID - Updated Wifi and LTE technologies (not sure how m…

I'm still on my iPhone 6, and I am not going to get the 11 either, in fact I have been dabbling with LineageOS on a Xiaomi Pocophone F1 as a second travel phone. What would make me "upgrade" (not sure if I can really call that an upgrade in the absence of a headphone port). Must-haves: 1. USB-C 2. 5G support using a single-chip like the Qualcomm Snapdragon X55 baseband chipset (not a separate 4g and 5G chip as with t…

For me, the must haves are:

1. Headphone jack. Absolute MUST for any sort of music recording (lag, quality) and long distance running (battery life).

2. TouchID. My wife has FaceId and I hate it so much.

Everything else I can live with or without.

I’m still on my 6s+ for those reasons, and it’s sad. Nobody would NOT buy the latest iPhone if it had those things. But a non-zero population doesn’t buy it bc it lacks them. Just silly.

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Post by mercutio2 »

thelittleone wrote: post #572
lucisferre wrote: post #541

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This is a very routine reply around here to every new iPhone announcement. Would you perhaps be able to elaborate on the features or improvements you did want to see but didn't? I mean I have an iPhone 8 and what I see are: - An edge-to-edge screen - Longer battery life - Faster processors - Improved cameras (don't care much myself but it is still improved) - FaceID - Updated Wifi and LTE technologies (not sure how m…

I've been hoping for something like this for a long while now: https://ibb.co/yF5FSbp Is there any use case where WiFi + Bluetooth hotspot makes more sense than enabling each separately. Bluetooth is a huge battery drain. To avoid this as it is now, I have to select Wifi + Bluetooh, wait for my device to connect via WiFi then go back to settings and disable bluetooth. If I forgot to do so, my battery is gone in a few…

In the general population, enabling bluetooth is not a battery drain. Quite the contrary; having it turned off tends to result in worse battery life.

If you are reliably experiencing something you can clearly pin on Bluetooth, you either have very unusual usage patterns, or are experiencing a severe bug.

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Post by waynecochran »

sdan wrote: post #603
sgarman wrote: post #570

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I can't believe we don't have higher refresh rates on iPhones yet. Apple got user experience with touch screens better then anyone else when the iPhone originally launched. Apple brought it to iPad, i'd like to see it in iPhone.

It's absurd Apple is selling "Pro" phones without refresh rates over 60. What year is it? 2016? A whole bunch of phone manufacturers are making 90+ hz screens.

This is for HMD / VR right?

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Post by Hasz »

These threads always seem to miss the point. It's not about the specs, it never was, and never will be.

Apple builds, or at least tries to build, seamless experiences. It's the reason there's limited hardware, excellent software support for past versions, and a creeping product line to extend to every device you come into contact with.

The demos showcase cool specs and features, but that is not where the value lies -- it lies in integration, cohesive experience and vendor lockin.

They're pushing out decent new revisions of the phone, but the creative push is going at integration(or should be!).

If I was Apple, I'd be aggressively funding R&D, building out a low cost, separate brand (to funnel India, Africa, into Apple devices over the next ~30 years), and spending everything else on beautiful, perfect integration, and maybe fixing up the Mac line.

Sell the privacy aspect hard, sell the integration even harder, and no competitor will ever unseat you.

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Post by dangus »

solbloch wrote: post #605
dangus wrote: post #442

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Get an iPhone 8 instead, probably the best value out there for iPhones. If you are worried about shelling out money, remember that an iPhone 8 isn't $449, it's $449 minus whatever you sell it for in a year (probably not much less). And it's even less if you just buy it used or Apple refurbished in the first place. The iPhone SE works fine but the screen size is too small for many apps that get scrunched up pretty bad…

Why an iPhone 8 over a 7? Is the performance much different? Price wise an iPhone 7 Renewed on Amazon is only ~$250-260 (128gb) versus an iPhone 8 which is around ~$400 (64gb).

My understanding is that the iPhone 7 has a few more common hardware issues than the iPhone 8. Apparently a lot of iPhone 7 models are affected by messed up speakers and mics, the audio IC defect. Kind of an important feature.

I’ll admit that’s a pretty big price difference but I wonder if that has to do with the 7’s hardware issues making it a phone to stay away from. Or maybe it’s just old and that’s why it’s cheap.

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