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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by strictlybiznes »

cydonian_monk wrote: post #408
jaydouken wrote: post #368

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How's the SE treating you in 2019? Trying to switch from Pixel to iPhone, but don't want to drop significant money until USB-C, which is rumored in 2020. Figured an SE might be good for me until then

I had to replace my SE battery earlier this year (well, I didn't absolutely need to, I did it because I intend to get another two years out if it). Otherwise mine is still chugging along perfectly well. Software wise it's a perfectly fine device, definitely some limitations, but only because the processor is a four+ year old design. Some SPA or otherwise heavy webpages cause it to choke (ex: it hates USAToday), but 9…

Yeah I replaced mine at the Apple Store this year (Apple covered it). Now I get well over a day's battery on it, amazing. Granted, I intentionally avoid installing hefty apps so that would also help achieve this kind of battery life.

Before that it would die in ~2hrs and instantly die in high heat.

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Post by Maarten88 »

jimbokun wrote: post #230
neogodless wrote: post #170

It's been clear for quite some time that terms like "Extreme", "Pro" and "Max" are marketing terms. They are not accurate classifications of how they will be used. If people feel strongly enough that the name is not accurate, they will have to buy a competing product that fulfills their needs at the price they are willing to pay. I suppose what would be interesting, but highly proprietary, would be Apple's marketing…

"Pro" has been pretty useful, I think, as a marker in Apple's other product lines. "MacBook Pro" and "iPad Pro" are the ones you buy if you need it for work, because the increased price will pay for itself with increased productivity. But buy the "Air" or basic versions if you are primarily using it for more basic tasks and media consumption. Not sure the "Pro" distinction will hold up for iPhone, though. I guess it…

> Not sure the "Pro" distinction will hold up for iPhone, though

It does, you need to be able to charge its cost as a business expense to be able to afford it. The "Pro" signals to the tax auditors that Apple approves of this :-)

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by IkmoIkmo »

I'm wondering... does this mean that the Pro has more battery life again than the XR, or now roughly equal?

Xr had about 2-3 hours more than the Xs I think. But the Pro now leaps by 4 vs Xs, and the 11 leaps by 1 vs Xr... So it should be about equal, perhaps Pro doing better, and the Pro Max def doing better (and should have quite insane battery life).

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Post by movedx »

neogodless wrote: post #170

It's been clear for quite some time that terms like "Extreme", "Pro" and "Max" are marketing terms. They are not accurate classifications of how they will be used. If people feel strongly enough that the name is not accurate, they will have to buy a competing product that fulfills their needs at the price they are willing to pay. I suppose what would be interesting, but highly proprietary, would be Apple's marketing…

> All that being said, I personally have never bought from Apple, and think the $150 upgrade cost is ridiculous (not to mention the $300 jump from the XR, which is still $300 more than I paid for my Pixel)! So I could say the "Pro" marketing isn't working on me! But overall, they aren't hurting for customers.

I love it when people complain about the prices Apple charge, especially given the experiences I've had with customer service at Apple, so... story time!

I had an iPhone 5 when it first came out. At the time I was a heavy motorbike rider to and from work. One day when I was riding home it rained heavily (this was in England, so yeah...) and my pocket had been left open. When I got home my iPhone was completely submerged in water for at least 20 minutes.

I took it to Apple the next day and they replaced it for free. Try that with your Pixel... oh that's right, you don't have any stores to take it into world wide. Shame.

Fast forward to only two years ago...

I was in Vienna for Christmas a few years back. We'd gone through Italy to get there. During my time in Italy I noticed my iPhone 6S' battery was dropping quickly. I couldn't work out why. By the time we got to Vienna it would drop by 20% every 15-20 minutes. I found a premium reseller who took it in and replaced the battery in 45 minutes for free. I bought the phone in Australia.

Try that with your Pixel... oh that's right, you have to post your phone to the manufacturer and wait for them to fix it or replace it, a process I know to take weeks. Shame. But you saved $300 though!

I personally don't think it's worth counting the pennies in that manner given the services you're getting outside of the hardware. It's not much of a price hike at all, in the grand scheme of things.

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Post by la_barba »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #480
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I agree. I've been an Android user since 2009 iirc and never owned and iPhone, I am going to buy an iPhone as my next phone due to all the shenanigans Google is doing. Every damn Android phone I've bought lately has Facebook preinstalled, theres other things, but I'm done with it all. The one thing that kills me about iPhones is the miniscule amount of storage I get. I dont want all my things in the cloud, the cloud…

A preinstalled app is the reason to switch the platforms? Sorry, not buying that. It takes a few seconds to uninstall.

>A preinstalled app is the reason to switch the platforms?

No. What they actually said :-

>Every damn Android phone I've bought lately has Facebook preinstalled, theres other things, but I'm done with it all.

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Post by nsilvestri »

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I think the wide angle camera is pretty important if you're into taking pics

I love the wide angle camera on my LG G5. And it's only three years young.

I liked the wide angle lens on my LG G6 but recently moved to a Pixel 3a. The wide angle was nice, but a better sensor is overall much preferable.

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Post by ryantgtg »

soneil wrote: post #487
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"Pro" probably works great to bring in people trying to elevate their social media quality. It doesn't necessarily mean (in Apple's marketing terminology) actual, legitimate professional industry anymore. I'd imagine people getting into vlogging and such, or even people who just want to be "that cool and popular" (especially younger people) that would buy in to the "Pro" moniker.

I think "Pro" is just admitting that they're running into two tiers now. They released the 8 and the X together, they released the XR and XS together. The iphone has diverged into two products and hopefully they've picked a consistent name to differentiate them - because the difference between XR and XS isn't obvious at all.

“XS” seemed to me like a blunder of a name. First off, I don’t know anyone who calls the X iPhones “ten” - they call them “x”. And so XS looks and sounds like “extra small.”

Without knowing anything about the X phones, I at first assumed that XR was the top of the line X phone. XR just... sounds like a better phone.

I think they resolved this with the 11 line.

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Post by babypuncher »

prewett wrote: post #401
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Xs was incremental improvement, this year people expected more.

I read the announcement and was pretty impressed: - 20% faster processor - 4 - 5 hrs better battery life - 30% faster FaceID (I don't know how slow the previous one was, but I know the speed difference between the TouchID on my iPad Mini 3 and my iPhone 7 makes me love it on the latter and never use it on the former) - 2000000:1 contrast ratio (!!) - wide angle and "telephoto" lenses, plus 4k video support, and bette…

Dual SIM came last year, and the 2000000:1 contrast ratio came in 2017. Aside from the third camera, the rest of these really are incremental improvements rather than new features.

I don't think that is a problem mind you. Lots of manufacturers are flinging shit at the wall trying to find the Next Big Thing(TM) in smartphones. I don't think it's going to happen any time soon. Smartphones in general have gotten incredibly good in the last 4-5 years.

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Post by incompatible »

neogodless wrote: post #170

It's been clear for quite some time that terms like "Extreme", "Pro" and "Max" are marketing terms. They are not accurate classifications of how they will be used. If people feel strongly enough that the name is not accurate, they will have to buy a competing product that fulfills their needs at the price they are willing to pay. I suppose what would be interesting, but highly proprietary, would be Apple's marketing…

If you need a "pro" phone but can't afford the iPhone, you could always get a UMIDIGI A3 Pro, or an ASUS ZenFone Max Pro M2, which are quite a bit cheaper.

Naturally it's just a marketing term.

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