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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Meh... I'll wait for 2020 iPhones and the 5 cameras. 3 are barely cutting it.

In 2040 there will be 60 cameras on the back of the phone! Or they'll break off the camera into a separate device: the iCamera and iCamera Pro! And now we've come full circle.

You probably don't realise how true is your comment. Except it will probably be 600 camera sensors.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

#512

Apple knew it back in 2017 and as each year progresses it’s becoming increasingly clear we have exited the innovation phase and are well into the saturated/sustained phone market. We will never see an iPhone announcement quite like the first 5 and the X. Short of a form factor change, our phones will last longer and the new phone feature list will decrease year over year. Also - the Pros are thicker, heavier, and sli…

What specs are you looking at? Pro is slightly smaller and lighter. 11: 5.94 x 2.98 x 0.33 @ 6.84 ounces 11 Pro: 5.67 x 2.81 x 0.32 @ 6.63 ounces

I think they meant 11 Pro compared to the XS.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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I agree. I've been an Android user since 2009 iirc and never owned and iPhone, I am going to buy an iPhone as my next phone due to all the shenanigans Google is doing. Every damn Android phone I've bought lately has Facebook preinstalled, theres other things, but I'm done with it all. The one thing that kills me about iPhones is the miniscule amount of storage I get. I dont want all my things in the cloud, the cloud…

A preinstalled app is the reason to switch the platforms? Sorry, not buying that. It takes a few seconds to uninstall.

I am in the same boat. I have an S7 from one of the major carriers that came preinstalled with Facebook. You can disable it, but not uninstall. Also, there is an update to "Facebook Services" which I can't seem to find and disable. I absolutely will not get another phone from Samsung (or others) that comes with Facebook preinstalled.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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There will always be lots of people disappointed in the iPhone. We will only know the magnitude of disappointment once financials are posted. Speaking of which, R&D spend shows they are making non-trivial investments. Apple secrecy is what keeps you and I seeing the R&D results before they are ready. "Signals" is not something Apple likes to give, which is probably why you aren't seeing any. I would argue that hardwa…

> Speaking of which, R&D spend shows they are making non-trivial investments. Unfortunately, Apple's R&D spend won't likely enable what they want to do on their phone. A large number of sources consistently suggests that Apple is experimenting various options to get rid of notch, but all those options depends on display manufacturers. > "Signals" is not something Apple likes to give, which is probably why you aren't…

I don't think it is so subjective. Look at the customer satisfaction scores. You could certainly correlate those with measurable aspects of the user experience (software crashes, support handling, camera speed, render jank, etc). A lack of good hw/sw integration will show up.

As for not having the best hardware, what can you see about the A* series chips? They are industry leading year after year. Why? Apple took development in house [1]. Apple is now taking modem [2] and display technology [3] in house. They are doing all the right things.

[1]https://appleinsider.com/articles/08/04/23/apple_buys_chip_d...

[2]https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/07/apple-to-acquire-the-...

[3]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-19/apple-is-...

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

#516
post #86

This thread needs to lighten up. The 11 is an incremental improvement - is that so wrong? Who still upgrades their phone every year anyway? I bought my iPhone 8 two years ago thinking of it as a 5 year investment.

>a 5 year investment.

I hope not...but sure looks that way. Still sporting a 7+

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

#517
post #66

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They improved every aspect of the phone. Each is a feat of engineering unto itself. What were you hoping for?

You don't need a 2 hour long presentation to give small spec bumps. The problem is that everyone now expects this whole yearly circus, and Apple puts on a show even though they only have very incremental improvements to show. It also doesn't help that most of the the cool software features were already announced at WWDC.

what I find odd is Apple appears disconnected from their audience, this was not the first presentation where Tim or others seem to pause waiting for an expected cheer that was not to materialize.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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People have complained for years about battery life. So Apple finally increases the battery slightly, and now I see people complaining about the weight. I understand now why Apple has resisted this for so long. All Apple phones are too thin, too slippery, and too light. I want my Treo back! At least give me the curved 3GS again.

Apple has increased battery life every year since the original was released haven't they? This year is a 4 hour increase, which is actually pretty huge.

In theory, sure. But it’s a fact that every time I upgrade my battery life is thrashed. I end up paying for new batteries and I barely last through the day.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

#519
post #41

Year after year of new iPhone's premieres I wonder for how long I'm going to use my iPhone SE - 3,5years has gone and nothing new for me on the horizon :( I don't care about missing jack, USB-C, cameras and other things - just make it smaller and it will fine by me.

How's the SE treating you in 2019? Trying to switch from Pixel to iPhone, but don't want to drop significant money until USB-C, which is rumored in 2020. Figured an SE might be good for me until then

Works about fine, also just makes the cut for iOS 13 support.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

#520

It's been clear for quite some time that terms like "Extreme", "Pro" and "Max" are marketing terms. They are not accurate classifications of how they will be used. If people feel strongly enough that the name is not accurate, they will have to buy a competing product that fulfills their needs at the price they are willing to pay. I suppose what would be interesting, but highly proprietary, would be Apple's marketing…

Honestly I never really understood the need to chase the newest flagship given the premium price. I probably upgrade about once a year to 18 months, and purchasing the prior model flagship saves me about 60% to 70%. I upgraded to the pixel 2xl shortly after the 3 came out for about $260. Even being able to afford it I just feel I'm getting ripped off at $1000.
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