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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by IkmoIkmo »

ljm wrote: post #459
gnicholas wrote: post #33

Disappointing that the base configuration of the iPhone 11 Pro has 64 GB of storage. If you're going to call it Pro and talk about how you can shoot professional video, you can't ship it with 64 GB of storage. EDIT: Also, they don't let you jump to 128 GB. You have to go to 256 GB, for $150 more. I can see why they didn't talk about this at the event. People would have booed.

This storage hasn't changed for almost a decade now, I'd expect 64GB to have been canned well before something like, say, the headphone jack. Even 128GB is quite low these days.

What? the 2017 iPhone was the first with 64gb base storage as far as I know. 2 years later, it's still the base. Disappointing but not so crazy, especially with the cloud option.

A decade ago we had the 2009 iPhone (3GS) with 8gb base and 32gb max. 64gb didn't exist in the iPhone.

Still I think it'd have been fine to go 64 for the iPhone, but do 128 base for the Pro... Ah well, maybe next year.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by basch »

IkmoIkmo wrote: post #495
basch wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Theres also a crazy amount of enterprise purchases who dont care about storage. Everything is stored off device, and an MDM is keeping whats on the device to a minimum. Companies would still be buying 32GB by the truckfull if it was available. Apple was right to discontinue it because 32GB wasnt enough to run the OS anymore, while also being a usable phone. Since you cant run a phone without iOS, and stripping the OS…

> Theres also a crazy amount of enterprise purchases who dont care about storage. Agreed, but that's what iPhone 11 is for... There's virtually no commercial reason for 95% of enterprise users to have a Pro version. A Pro version for most of 2020 that can shoot multiple videos at the same time in 4k, with 64gb... I don't know, doesn't sit well with me. I'm all for keeping the base model basic and as low-cost as possi…

Not that its an enterprise case, but personally id get the Pro for the OLED screen moreso than the camera.

Id maybe bet the other reason they dont offer 128 on the pro is supply chain related, they have all their 128 dedicated to the standard model.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by ko27 »

prewett wrote: post #401
krzyk wrote: post #161

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Xs was incremental improvement, this year people expected more.

I read the announcement and was pretty impressed: - 20% faster processor - 4 - 5 hrs better battery life - 30% faster FaceID (I don't know how slow the previous one was, but I know the speed difference between the TouchID on my iPad Mini 3 and my iPhone 7 makes me love it on the latter and never use it on the former) - 2000000:1 contrast ratio (!!) - wide angle and "telephoto" lenses, plus 4k video support, and bette…

> 2000000:1 contrast ratio (!!)

What so exciting here? It's OLED. They all have that kind of contrast ratio. The huge number was just mentioned for marketing sake. Your eyes won't know the difference between 200000, 2000000 or Infinity.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by suyash »

tunesmith wrote: post #76

That ability to record multiple video streams at the same time is the one game changer that jumped out to me. It doesn't matter to me, but a buddy of mine that podcasts and shoots video is about as thrilled as I've ever seen him on apple launch days.

Don't be fooled, that is just a feature you can get using any 3rd party app that gives you 2 camera feeds (front facing and rear facing) or write it yourself. For iOS: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/249/

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by viraptor »

prewett wrote: post #401
krzyk wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Xs was incremental improvement, this year people expected more.

I read the announcement and was pretty impressed: - 20% faster processor - 4 - 5 hrs better battery life - 30% faster FaceID (I don't know how slow the previous one was, but I know the speed difference between the TouchID on my iPad Mini 3 and my iPhone 7 makes me love it on the latter and never use it on the former) - 2000000:1 contrast ratio (!!) - wide angle and "telephoto" lenses, plus 4k video support, and bette…

> Dual SIM cards (a must for the Asian market)

Haven't heard of that. Why is it a must?

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by IkmoIkmo »

toasterlovin wrote: post #303
gnicholas wrote: post #203

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Good point, although those phones were not called Pro phones. They were top-of-the-line, but it was more understandable to offer a 64 GB version without the Pro moniker.

FWIW, there are other people in the world beside you. And they have different needs and desires. I am one of those people. 64GB is perfect for me. I wouldn't upgrade to 128GB of storage even if it were available.

> FWIW, there are other people in the world beside you. And they have different needs and desires.

Which everyone supports, if there was a reasonably priced 128gb option for the Pro, the complaint wouldn't be as strong. But there isn't such an option. You either use 64, or at least 4x that much (which, after subtracting 14 from the OS, is actually 5x that much). That's just a pretty silly scale, not granular at all.

So you squeeze tons of consumers to take too little because they don't want to pay for a 5x jump when they need 2x, or squeeze them into doing just that and overpaying, or squeeze them into a cloud subscription. It's not matching the product to the needs in the way that they could.

Meanwhile the 11 gets 128, just not the Pro.

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Post by tpmx »

summerlight wrote: post #429

Lots of people disappointed in the new iPhone. The reason I see is simple; Apple has long been outsourced a large fraction of its hardware innovation capabilities to other companies rather than having a full vertical ownership of the production line, unlike its competitors (Samsung, Huawei, etc). This works very well when most of the required technologies are already there for bringing their idea to the reality so Ap…

This is a surprisingly thought-provoking comment and the theory checks out.

Until Apple are able to break out of this mould I feel they'll be stuck at this combination of

a) uninteresting yearly iterations

b) ever increasing base phone prices for little end user gain

I don't thinkt hey're able to paint themselves out of this corner on the smartphone front.

They have iOS as a decent but certainly not impregnable moat for iPhone. Some brand new groundbreaking product will be needed very soon to prevent the Apple stock price from steadily declining. (It already starting plateauing 15 months ago.)

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by moogleii »

ko27 wrote: post #505
prewett wrote: post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read the announcement and was pretty impressed: - 20% faster processor - 4 - 5 hrs better battery life - 30% faster FaceID (I don't know how slow the previous one was, but I know the speed difference between the TouchID on my iPad Mini 3 and my iPhone 7 makes me love it on the latter and never use it on the former) - 2000000:1 contrast ratio (!!) - wide angle and "telephoto" lenses, plus 4k video support, and bette…

> 2000000:1 contrast ratio (!!) What so exciting here? It's OLED. They all have that kind of contrast ratio. The huge number was just mentioned for marketing sake. Your eyes won't know the difference between 200000, 2000000 or Infinity.

While being P3 compliant?
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