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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Perhaps one day they will add enough cameras to make the phone flat again.

In my past job I tested cellphone cameras for image quality. This trend of adding more cameras//lenses was beginning to take effect.

I half-joked that soon the entire back of a smartphone would surpass the "spider threshold" and eventually put a fly to shame.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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I'm quite sad they have removed 3D Touch from the phones. A minor feature I really enjoy with quick peeking — and bummed to lose that touch information for apps like Procreate Pocket and other drawing tools.

Wait what? I kinda saw it coming with XR.. It’s still bad tho.

3D touch is an _amazing_ feature for power users, and one of the few that markedly differentiated the iphones from competition. Biggest thing is text editing of course, where 3D selection increases productivity _several times_, but potential was even greater if implemented more.

Ironic that they are marketing this one as pro.

I bought a X recently and plan on keeping it for years. If they software disable it with an OS update or some BS i’m gonna be so mad.

Also, I feel kinda stupid saying it but I feel like this is the sort of thing steve Jobs would have pushed harder for

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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“Pro” is not just for productivity but comfort of use as well. As an analogy if you sit on a chair 8 hours a day you’ll want a super nice chair, even if it wouldn’t have direct effects on productivity compared to a just decent one. For most people relying on a smartphone for work, be it 700 or 1000 the device will pay for itself in a few months at most, so I think the price difference won’t matter much. Better batter…

Honest question, who relies on a smartphone for work? I mean, obviously people rely on a phone for work, people rely on email for work, but what jobs are there where getting the iPhone pro model would make a difference to getting, say, the now much lower priced iPhone 8.. or for that matter a used 2/3 year old flagship android phone?

One thing the top end iPhone has is a better camera, and for tangentially-professional photographers, this makes a difference. ("Tangentially" meaning professionals that need photos, eg insurance claims adjuster, but that's it's not a primary focus of their job so an SLR doesn't make sense, eg wedding photographer.)

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Pro” is not just for productivity but comfort of use as well. As an analogy if you sit on a chair 8 hours a day you’ll want a super nice chair, even if it wouldn’t have direct effects on productivity compared to a just decent one. For most people relying on a smartphone for work, be it 700 or 1000 the device will pay for itself in a few months at most, so I think the price difference won’t matter much. Better batter…

Honest question, who relies on a smartphone for work? I mean, obviously people rely on a phone for work, people rely on email for work, but what jobs are there where getting the iPhone pro model would make a difference to getting, say, the now much lower priced iPhone 8.. or for that matter a used 2/3 year old flagship android phone?

A can see for some people where images are an important aspect, but not central to the work, the new cameras might come in handy - off the top of my head ...

I’m estate agent and I want to be able to photograph exteriors and interiors.

I’m a garden designer, I like to photograph my clients gardens for a portfolio.

I run a small bar, that has live music sometimes- I like to photograph and video the bands for my website.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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That's just marketing to make sure you buy the more expensive models while base model appears to be somewhat reasonably priced. Usual marketing mindhack.

Theres also a crazy amount of enterprise purchases who dont care about storage. Everything is stored off device, and an MDM is keeping whats on the device to a minimum. Companies would still be buying 32GB by the truckfull if it was available. Apple was right to discontinue it because 32GB wasnt enough to run the OS anymore, while also being a usable phone. Since you cant run a phone without iOS, and stripping the OS…

> Theres also a crazy amount of enterprise purchases who dont care about storage.

Agreed, but that's what iPhone 11 is for... There's virtually no commercial reason for 95% of enterprise users to have a Pro version.

A Pro version for most of 2020 that can shoot multiple videos at the same time in 4k, with 64gb... I don't know, doesn't sit well with me. I'm all for keeping the base model basic and as low-cost as possible to those who needn't anything more. But then either reasonably price your storage, or create a 128gb option in between, especially if you don't allow SD cards. And especially when Apple is just fine offering 128gb on the 11, but not the Pro... It's a bit much.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Because it blows my mind that apple doesn't have a working video on their site....... nay, TWO non-working videos, the keynote and the short film. Heres the short film on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVEemOmHw9Y

The iPhone 11 [0] and iPhone 11 Pro [1] pages have the short films [0] https://www.apple.com/iphone-11/ [1] https://www.apple.com/iphone-11-pro/

I know, at the time I posted that neither worked. The keynote said "video unavailable" and the short demo died about 1 minute in. No amount of refreshing or scrubbing would get it to play past that mark.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

#497

Perhaps one day they will add enough cameras to make the phone flat again.

My cynical take is that they are intentionally:

A) Making the camera protrusion ungainly so that most people think "I'm going to put a case on this to make it look and feel better."

B) Changing the shape of the protrusion periodically to force people to get a new case.

Therefore adding an invisible extra $40-50 profit on millions of iphones sold.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

#500

Disappointing that the base configuration of the iPhone 11 Pro has 64 GB of storage. If you're going to call it Pro and talk about how you can shoot professional video, you can't ship it with 64 GB of storage. EDIT: Also, they don't let you jump to 128 GB. You have to go to 256 GB, for $150 more. I can see why they didn't talk about this at the event. People would have booed.

They have to to make the price point and keep the big profit margin. Same reason the iPhone 11 still has a sub-1080p screen even though it's a 6" screen.
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