Serious question: Why would anyone buy the Pro when you can get the iPhone 11 itself for $300 cheaper?
iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
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This notch is only seen by non-iPhone users. It disappears completely and immediately.
I am an iPhone user who refuses to upgrade from my 7+ until this silly notch business is removed. It does not "disappear completely and immediately", especially when viewing landscape mode video content.
I do not own a phone with a notch, but I’m under the impression that most video content is not wide enough for the notch to cut into the video.
I think you have the option of zooming in a bit to remove black bars on edges; with the drawback that corner pixels and the notch area are lost. Same as any other non-16:9 phone
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
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I agree. I've been an Android user since 2009 iirc and never owned and iPhone, I am going to buy an iPhone as my next phone due to all the shenanigans Google is doing. Every damn Android phone I've bought lately has Facebook preinstalled, theres other things, but I'm done with it all. The one thing that kills me about iPhones is the miniscule amount of storage I get. I dont want all my things in the cloud, the cloud…
Pixel phones don't have facebook preinstalled
They've got the rest of Google's software preinstalled on the other hand. I don't want every single Google service on my phone, and some of them you can't uninstall.
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
#474Lots of people disappointed in the new iPhone. The reason I see is simple; Apple has long been outsourced a large fraction of its hardware innovation capabilities to other companies rather than having a full vertical ownership of the production line, unlike its competitors (Samsung, Huawei, etc). This works very well when most of the required technologies are already there for bringing their idea to the reality so Ap…
My observation is Apple waits for someone else to make the hardware innovation (e.g., camera under screen being the next example of this), then they do a more polished version of that.
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Xs was incremental improvement, this year people expected more.
I read the announcement and was pretty impressed: - 20% faster processor - 4 - 5 hrs better battery life - 30% faster FaceID (I don't know how slow the previous one was, but I know the speed difference between the TouchID on my iPad Mini 3 and my iPhone 7 makes me love it on the latter and never use it on the former) - 2000000:1 contrast ratio (!!) - wide angle and "telephoto" lenses, plus 4k video support, and bette…
An improvement with no real innovation.
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People are almost certainly asking for thinner phones. A very small portion of people probably would prefer a thicker phone with a larger battery, but I strongly suspect that the overwhelming majority of people prefer phones that are as thin as possible with enough battery life for an average day's usage, with the option of carrying an external battery pack for the times when more battery life will be necessary. I am…
> People are almost certainly asking for thinner phones. Are they? Almost everyone I know has a case on their phone; and I didn't have one until I bought the iPhone XS, which is over $1k and has glass on both sides . I mean, don't get me wrong; I like the capabilities of the new iPhones. But the current design means that what most people actually use not the slick shiny slimness you see in Apple promotional materials…
> Are they? Almost everyone I know has a case on their phone; and I didn't have one until I bought the iPhone XS, which is over $1k and has glass on both sides.
And if you had a thicker phone, do you think it would obviate the need for a case?
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
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Pro photographers that make bank by being instagram influencers will be all over the iPhone Pro. This will completely upend the vlogging industry too. I vlog with a DSLR and even with an iPhone X most people can’t tell when I use footage from that (running with a dslr is hard, for example). iPhone Pro likely makes better video than my T6i Rebel in many situations. Depth of field is usually where DSLRs shine
Why? Why wouldn't anyone with more than a passing interest in photography buy a dedicated camera for much less money that will work much better?
You don't need the best gear for (that kind of) Instagram, an iPhone that takes fantastic photos _and_ lets you edit and post in a frictionless manner is probably a more productive platform.
People don't _look at_ Instagram posts in the same way they might a fine art photograph. It's a double tap while scrolling through hundreds of posts.
I say this as an avid amateur wildlife photographer who posts on Instagram and gets a handful of likes while friends get hundreds or thousands for an out-of-focus image of a milkshake and bagel.
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
#478The event was meh for me for the phones. Though I’m due for an upgrade and will likely get the 256GB 11 Pro Max (what a stupid name).
The series 5 watch looks awesome. I think I’m in for one as I’m still on a working (all day battery) first gen - day one Apple Watch Sport edition.
I’m most excited about the 16inch MacBook with a new keyboard as my mid 2013 MacBook Pro 15inch laptop is really showing its age.
Apple really nailed the pricing of Apple TV+ at 4.99 though. That’s a fair price. Apple Arcade will need to have some really cool games but it at 4.99 too is really nice.
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
#479Lots of people disappointed in the new iPhone. The reason I see is simple; Apple has long been outsourced a large fraction of its hardware innovation capabilities to other companies rather than having a full vertical ownership of the production line, unlike its competitors (Samsung, Huawei, etc). This works very well when most of the required technologies are already there for bringing their idea to the reality so Ap…
There will always be lots of people disappointed in the iPhone. We will only know the magnitude of disappointment once financials are posted. Speaking of which, R&D spend shows they are making non-trivial investments. Apple secrecy is what keeps you and I seeing the R&D results before they are ready. "Signals" is not something Apple likes to give, which is probably why you aren't seeing any. I would argue that hardwa…
> Speaking of which, R&D spend shows they are making non-trivial investments.
Unfortunately, Apple's R&D spend won't likely enable what they want to do on their phone. A large number of sources consistently suggests that Apple is experimenting various options to get rid of notch, but all those options depends on display manufacturers.
> "Signals" is not something Apple likes to give, which is probably why you aren't seeing any.
Apple definitely wants to prove their iPhone business has more potential to grow; why would they hide the growth potential of the largest business to their investors? The truth is that it doesn't see more potentials on its phone business and this is why Apple is aggressively investing into services business.
> I would argue that hardware+software integration is more important than 5G, underscreen fingerprint, or notchless design combined.
I wouldn't argue on a subjective issue, but just note that iPhone used to have the best hardware, software and their integration during Steve's era, which is not true anymore for hardware and the gap is increasing. As a 10 year iPhone user, this is very disappointing.
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
#480Disappointing that the base configuration of the iPhone 11 Pro has 64 GB of storage. If you're going to call it Pro and talk about how you can shoot professional video, you can't ship it with 64 GB of storage. EDIT: Also, they don't let you jump to 128 GB. You have to go to 256 GB, for $150 more. I can see why they didn't talk about this at the event. People would have booed.
I agree. I've been an Android user since 2009 iirc and never owned and iPhone, I am going to buy an iPhone as my next phone due to all the shenanigans Google is doing. Every damn Android phone I've bought lately has Facebook preinstalled, theres other things, but I'm done with it all. The one thing that kills me about iPhones is the miniscule amount of storage I get. I dont want all my things in the cloud, the cloud…
A preinstalled app is the reason to switch the platforms? Sorry, not buying that. It takes a few seconds to uninstall.