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“Pro” is not just for productivity but comfort of use as well. As an analogy if you sit on a chair 8 hours a day you’ll want a super nice chair, even if it wouldn’t have direct effects on productivity compared to a just decent one. For most people relying on a smartphone for work, be it 700 or 1000 the device will pay for itself in a few months at most, so I think the price difference won’t matter much. Better batter…

Honest question, who relies on a smartphone for work? I mean, obviously people rely on a phone for work, people rely on email for work, but what jobs are there where getting the iPhone pro model would make a difference to getting, say, the now much lower priced iPhone 8.. or for that matter a used 2/3 year old flagship android phone?

Not even exclusively for work. If I'm away from my desk for any reason, be it in my vehicle, in the server room, at a friend's place, and I need to urgently know something I always reach for my phone. My phone has my passwords and credit card numbers. My phone gets me connected to all my friends, near and far, for whatever reason. I have access to my email and most critical documents. I use the cameras and microphone to document my life, my projects, and special moments to me. And let's not be glib about it, it's a great tool for passing time between when I'm doing useful and fun things. I can browse Reddit while waiting for my wife to get her hair done.

I find it odd how people will happily pull their wallets out for a PC they will spend a ton of time on, but then balk at the idea of spending half that on a device that lives in your pocket and can help you do practically anything that comes to mind, even if all that comes to mind is entertain you for a few moments. Is it just down to the physical size of the device?

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Year after year of new iPhone's premieres I wonder for how long I'm going to use my iPhone SE - 3,5years has gone and nothing new for me on the horizon :( I don't care about missing jack, USB-C, cameras and other things - just make it smaller and it will fine by me.

How's the SE treating you in 2019? Trying to switch from Pixel to iPhone, but don't want to drop significant money until USB-C, which is rumored in 2020. Figured an SE might be good for me until then

Get an iPhone 8 instead, probably the best value out there for iPhones.

If you are worried about shelling out money, remember that an iPhone 8 isn't $449, it's $449 minus whatever you sell it for in a year (probably not much less). And it's even less if you just buy it used or Apple refurbished in the first place.

The iPhone SE works fine but the screen size is too small for many apps that get scrunched up pretty badly. You’re using a screen size that a very small fraction of Apple users are still using, which means app developers don’t care to make it work nicely for you.

The camera is bad by modern standards, I can see a big difference even for small 4x6 prints, and Touch ID is the slower 1st generation. It's just really old hardware all around.

On the plus side, it has good battery life, a headphone jack, and it's still an iPhone running full iOS.

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Disappointing that the base configuration of the iPhone 11 Pro has 64 GB of storage. If you're going to call it Pro and talk about how you can shoot professional video, you can't ship it with 64 GB of storage. EDIT: Also, they don't let you jump to 128 GB. You have to go to 256 GB, for $150 more. I can see why they didn't talk about this at the event. People would have booed.

Well, I suppose you can always attach a USB harddisk, right (?)

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Apple knew it back in 2017 and as each year progresses it’s becoming increasingly clear we have exited the innovation phase and are well into the saturated/sustained phone market. We will never see an iPhone announcement quite like the first 5 and the X. Short of a form factor change, our phones will last longer and the new phone feature list will decrease year over year. Also - the Pros are thicker, heavier, and sli…

Today made me think about the launch of the X. I think Apple knocked it out of the park with the X, I bought it because I was due a new phone and have been pleasantly surprised/amazed by how they got pretty much everything right “first time”, so to speak.

Given they’ve done it 2 or 3 times, it’s not beyond Apple to produce another amazing phone down the line.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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That camera cluster gives me trypophobia vibes. I feel like some sort of robot insect monster is going to hatch and take over my brain. (and/or this iPhone is an infant robot overlord) Another iteration of "why bother" gadgets which is definitely cool but do we all really need one? I expect the fad to break in the next decade. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypophobia

I am visiting from the future - an hour down the Trypophobia rabbithole - to caution against ever viewing any Mango Worm related web content.

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This is probably the least interesting new iPhone ever released.

I was able about to order an XS Max, so I'm pretty content with better camera/battery/charger, though I imagine if you were already semi-up-to-date there's not really a whole lot new for most users.

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iPhone XS Max is 208 grams. Galaxy Note 10+ is 196 grams. I think these are pushing the limit of weight comfort. Bigger batteries are nice, but certainly contribute a lot to the weight. I really liked the 158 grams of the LG V30 back when I had that.

iPhone SE is just 113g. And the battery life is OK, and it has the 3.5mm jack too. iPhone 11 Pro is whole 188g.

188g for the iPhone 11 Pro doesn't sound bad at all.

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Relatively, yes; cumulatively this is the most interesting iPhone ever.

Thats why no one talks about it cumulatively. By cumulative logic every new iPhone release is the most interesting ever by definition because its... cumulative.

Unless features get dropped.

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People are almost certainly asking for thinner phones. A very small portion of people probably would prefer a thicker phone with a larger battery, but I strongly suspect that the overwhelming majority of people prefer phones that are as thin as possible with enough battery life for an average day's usage, with the option of carrying an external battery pack for the times when more battery life will be necessary. I am…

> People are almost certainly asking for thinner phones. Are they? Almost everyone I know has a case on their phone; and I didn't have one until I bought the iPhone XS, which is over $1k and has glass on both sides . I mean, don't get me wrong; I like the capabilities of the new iPhones. But the current design means that what most people actually use not the slick shiny slimness you see in Apple promotional materials…

Ob: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yfoWLRLXl30&feature=youtu.be

Serious drop test, without any wussie case

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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People wouldn't have booed because other than journalists, the theater was filled with Apple employees.

People booed 2 years ago when they announced the price and they booed this year when they announced the Mac Pro pricing, You could hear it when they announced that expensive stand so that’s clearly not true.

The is pure speculation, but I think it could still hold true. Consider that many Apple employees aren't involved with every project, and Apple is known to heavily segment their developers.

So you might be an Apple Fan who happens to be an employee - except you work on idk iMessages or something - you might still be disappointed to see a 1000$ stand, especially from a company you work for.

Given it's a crowded room, I highly doubt employees would be reprimanded for just booing.

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