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Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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It might be a health thing. I notice when my health is poor I don't feel like doing anything. But after changing my eating habits and sleeping more[0], I have much more energy and motivation to do things I like.

I didn't notice this for a long time; the decline was so gradual I didn't notice until I was constantly tired every day. Still not perfect, but much better than before.

[0] Please sleep more, dear reader https://twitter.com/hillelogram/status/1119709859979714560

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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post #29

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Ignoring the framework of the day and “learning the fundamentals” won’t get you past the either HR filters or make you competitive with developers who are constantly doing Resume Driven Development and have a resume that is buzzword compliant. Especially if you are an older developer (I’m 45) and you will just be seen as just another old out of touch developer. That being said, the further down the stack you go, the…

So what? I don't care to compete with those developers or work for the companies who hire them.

If you live in a place where you can be selective with who you work for, I think this is the right approach.

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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I don't. Turning my hobby into my career killed my hobby and, really, that's fine. It affords me a good life and the ability to discover and enjoy new hobbies. If you're worried about "keeping up," then I would suggest you 1) ignore the rat-race that is framework-of-the-day and 2) focus on learning fundamentals of your domain. Sure, you'll miss out on some hip startup jobs but typical employers don't care about your…

Ignoring the framework of the day and “learning the fundamentals” won’t get you past the either HR filters or make you competitive with developers who are constantly doing Resume Driven Development and have a resume that is buzzword compliant. Especially if you are an older developer (I’m 45) and you will just be seen as just another old out of touch developer. That being said, the further down the stack you go, the…

So do it the old fashioned way: socialize and network with people at industry events. Ageism is another issue that isn’t quite so easy to solve. Doesn’t that depend on the area more than anything?

Networking like that is how I found my job without a degree in computer science.

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

#76
A few years ago I found myself in the same situation and finally determined it was going into the office and dealing with so many people that was to blame. Once I started working remotely I found I had lots of spare energy and motivation for all my hobbies.

I don't mean to say that this is your issue, but take a look your life and what drains you. It might be the boring work or it might be something else completely.

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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post #56

The author of “Feeling Good”, Dr David Burns, who popularized cognitive behavioral therapy, believes we have motivation backwards. That in reality, motivation comes from taking action. To overcome procrastination, you commit to doing some ridiculously small task — e.g., launching your code editor. Typically this snowballs into doing meaningful work. The trick is to only mentally commit to a few minutes and most of th…

Really interesting take. I will keep this mind.

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ignoring the framework of the day and “learning the fundamentals” won’t get you past the either HR filters or make you competitive with developers who are constantly doing Resume Driven Development and have a resume that is buzzword compliant. Especially if you are an older developer (I’m 45) and you will just be seen as just another old out of touch developer. That being said, the further down the stack you go, the…

So do it the old fashioned way: socialize and network with people at industry events. Ageism is another issue that isn’t quite so easy to solve. Doesn’t that depend on the area more than anything? Networking like that is how I found my job without a degree in computer science.

Networking - which I do - will only take you so far. I have a strong network but you still need to have the requirements for the job. Why would a company hire someone who doesn’t have the wanted skillset when they could find someone who does.

I only started really job hopping and taking my career seriously 10 years ago at 35. I’ve always had at least a half a dozen interviews and a minuscule number of rejections. My network got me to the interview without going through an ATS. My Resume Driven Development and knowing the game got me offers.

Ageism outside of the cool hip startup world is exaggerated. Most of the older developers confuse ageism with not keeping their skillset in sync with the market.

Re: Ask HN: How do you keep your programming motivation up?

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like you went the corporate route in your career, which is totally fine. Compared to the startup route, it has its pros and cons, one of which is HR filters and people gaming the system to advance their careers. Just wanted to say that it’s not everyone’s experience, there’s a whole other world where that’s not a problem, but.. you know, there are different issues.

The startups are even worse when it comes to ageism, “culture fit”, and overwork.

As they say, you can find something wrong with everything.
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