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Post by crystaln »

neogodless wrote: post #170

It's been clear for quite some time that terms like "Extreme", "Pro" and "Max" are marketing terms. They are not accurate classifications of how they will be used. If people feel strongly enough that the name is not accurate, they will have to buy a competing product that fulfills their needs at the price they are willing to pay. I suppose what would be interesting, but highly proprietary, would be Apple's marketing…

I suppose they could protest a 64GB pro version or they could buy a bigger one. I guess we all pick our battles.

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Post by dEnigma »

whsheet wrote: post #14

This notch. Can't be unseen in 2019.

I always thought I'd be bothered by a notch, but when my old phone eventually gave up the ghost I saw a great deal for a Huawei phone with a notch, and I immediately got used to the design. I expected to need at least a few days to acclimatize myself, but it was instant, weirdly enough. Now Now it never even enters my mind until I hear someone talking, or see comments, about notches in phones.

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Post by soared »

chrisjc wrote: post #277
thiht wrote: post #240

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Any $200 is going to last several years.

I assume you mean any $200 android phone? The most I've ever gotten out of an Android phone is 2 years, and at that point it's crawling, not receiving updates (OS or security) and seemingly just abandoned by the manufacturer. This thread is full of people declaring no reason to update to this latest batch of iphones. To me, that speaks volumes about the iphone ecosystem.

iPhone SE refurb is $80 on ebay and will last forever if you don't use it as a camera or gaming device.

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Post by Swizec »

jimbokun wrote: post #230
neogodless wrote: post #170

It's been clear for quite some time that terms like "Extreme", "Pro" and "Max" are marketing terms. They are not accurate classifications of how they will be used. If people feel strongly enough that the name is not accurate, they will have to buy a competing product that fulfills their needs at the price they are willing to pay. I suppose what would be interesting, but highly proprietary, would be Apple's marketing…

"Pro" has been pretty useful, I think, as a marker in Apple's other product lines. "MacBook Pro" and "iPad Pro" are the ones you buy if you need it for work, because the increased price will pay for itself with increased productivity. But buy the "Air" or basic versions if you are primarily using it for more basic tasks and media consumption. Not sure the "Pro" distinction will hold up for iPhone, though. I guess it…

Pro photographers that make bank by being instagram influencers will be all over the iPhone Pro. This will completely upend the vlogging industry too.

I vlog with a DSLR and even with an iPhone X most people can’t tell when I use footage from that (running with a dslr is hard, for example). iPhone Pro likely makes better video than my T6i Rebel in many situations. Depth of field is usually where DSLRs shine

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Post by tpmx »

baddox wrote: post #326
tpmx wrote: post #67

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They've probably kept the "long press action" for compat reasons? It's equally undiscoverable. I'm not super sad about this one; it was a weird thing from the beginning. It shouldn't have been introduced at all. This feature was introduced in 2014. The timing of the removal makes me think it's related to the departure of Jony Ives.

> They've probably kept the "long press action" for compat reasons? I'm not sure what you mean. From what I can tell, they're introducing the long press action all over the OS, to replace Peek and Pop with "context menus". https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline... Previously, they had the long press action in just a few spots for non-3D Touch phones (like on Control Center icons on the iPhone XR…

To clarify: In order to maintain app compatibility with this ill-advised HW feature that they are now abandoning, they will need to do something. I'm guessing they'll probably translate long press events into force touch events for third party apps. Do you have better intel?

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Post by misterprime »

actuator wrote: post #296
gnicholas wrote: post #33

Disappointing that the base configuration of the iPhone 11 Pro has 64 GB of storage. If you're going to call it Pro and talk about how you can shoot professional video, you can't ship it with 64 GB of storage. EDIT: Also, they don't let you jump to 128 GB. You have to go to 256 GB, for $150 more. I can see why they didn't talk about this at the event. People would have booed.

64 GB is just not enough space if you plan to use the camera a lot. I have a 2nd gen Pixel with 64 GB of space and I find myself running out of space often if I end up recording 4K video or enable RAW shots. Mind you, Pixel has unlimited full resolution storage with Google Photos so cloud storage is not an issue; but you need to be in good wifi to utilize that. While traveling, that might not be the case always. I ho…

With the release of the Note 10 and Note 10+ you can take "audio jack" off the list.

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

masklinn wrote: post #287
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #201

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I'm impressed at the sheer number of bumps. Pretty much guaranteed to be resting your phone on a camera lens. I wonder if it'll actually sit flat on its back.

They haven't been resting flat on their back since the iphone 6 introduced a camera bump.

Oh weird. Being in Android land I'm not used to camera bumps.

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Post by gwd »

baddox wrote: post #302
nanoservices wrote: post #171

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I'd rather they make the back uniform thickness so the camera bump is eliminated. Take the extra space for a larger battery. No one is asking for thinner phones but quite a lot of people would love phones with better battery life.

People are almost certainly asking for thinner phones. A very small portion of people probably would prefer a thicker phone with a larger battery, but I strongly suspect that the overwhelming majority of people prefer phones that are as thin as possible with enough battery life for an average day's usage, with the option of carrying an external battery pack for the times when more battery life will be necessary. I am…

> People are almost certainly asking for thinner phones.

Are they? Almost everyone I know has a case on their phone; and I didn't have one until I bought the iPhone XS, which is over $1k and has glass on both sides.

I mean, don't get me wrong; I like the capabilities of the new iPhones. But the current design means that what most people actually use not the slick shiny slimness you see in Apple promotional materials, but thick sturdy plastic keeping all that fragile glass safe.

If Johnny Ives really wanted to be able to see people use phones the way he envisioned them, he should have designed it to withstand a 10-foot drop onto concrete. That would be a lot more useful than 30 minutes underwater.

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