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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by freehunter »

DangerousPie wrote: post #112
DuskStar wrote: post #90

Do they list the RAM capacity anywhere? It feels odd not to. (but then it's also a spec where Apple's been decisively beaten in the past, so it makes some sense not to show) I haven't been able to find it on either of the specs pages [0] [1]. 0: https://www.apple.com/iphone-11-pro/specs/ 1: https://www.apple.com/iphone-11/specs/

Why do you care? I have owned an iPhone for years and I don't even know how much RAM it has. It simply doesn't matter as long as the OS manages it well. Comparing RAM specs between different OS seems pretty pointless.

I do care unfortunately... when I switch from a game to Safari to look up tips on how to get better at the game, that game is often force-closed by iOS and I just lost all my progress. If I'm playing a game and I get a text message and switch to Slack to copy a message into iMessage then back to the game, the game has restarted. If I switch from Safari to the camera app to find a picture then back to Safari, I'll find Safari reloading the page, losing my progress on the web form I was filling out. Actually that last point is why I don't use PWAs and prefer the app, because a PWA will almost always handle being closed worse than an app will.

Most apps handle these things gracefully and it's no problem, but when it's a problem it's a real problem.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by jonknee »

gnicholas wrote: post #212
baddox wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People wouldn’t have booed. This is the same storage pricing as the previous two generations.

There were no previous generations of Pro iPhones. I get that these are replacing the XS and XS Max, but those were not designated Pro. When you put that label on, you have to give all of Pro devices storage to match.

I think you're reading way to into the naming scheme. They simply ran out of letters and went with Pro to designate the more expensive model. It's still a smartphone, it's not like there is a large market out there for people who make and edit feature films with phones.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by NeptuneNancy »

bitL wrote: post #49
vxNsr wrote: post #5

Disappointed that there wasn't really a true breakout feature I guess they're still doing the s-cadence even if they got rid of the name. I'm still rocking a 6s and I'm gonna keep it for the next year I guess, more battery life is nice but can't swing $999 for 4 more hours of battery life. Here's hoping 128gb is standard next year (I currently have the 128gb 6s which was the most expensive at the time).

iOS 13 is likely the last iOS your 6s would run despite A9 being good enough. Similarly to Catalina being likely the last macOS running on first retina MBP 2012 that are still good enough and likely will be for a few more years (much faster than latest Airs).

I love my mid-2012 MBP. I expect I’ll have to replace it next summer if I want to run the latest Xcode, which will make me very sad. It amazes me that it’s seven years old, as it runs as well as it did they day I bought it.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by _xnmw »

microtonal wrote: post #15
vxNsr wrote: post #5

Disappointed that there wasn't really a true breakout feature I guess they're still doing the s-cadence even if they got rid of the name. I'm still rocking a 6s and I'm gonna keep it for the next year I guess, more battery life is nice but can't swing $999 for 4 more hours of battery life. Here's hoping 128gb is standard next year (I currently have the 128gb 6s which was the most expensive at the time).

I also have an 6s. Haven't found much reason to upgrade. I like the smaller form factor. I guess upgrading to the 7 or 8 may be nice at some point for water resistance (a heavy rain shower killed my SE).

I switched from 6S to XR, and I wasn't expecting much, but oh boy, you don't realize how much of a difference a boost in processing speed and screen size can make. Massive productivity gains, even though I'm primarily a desktop person. That plus the huge battery on the XR fundamentally changes how you think about your phone.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by masklinn »

vxNsr wrote: post #5

Disappointed that there wasn't really a true breakout feature I guess they're still doing the s-cadence even if they got rid of the name. I'm still rocking a 6s and I'm gonna keep it for the next year I guess, more battery life is nice but can't swing $999 for 4 more hours of battery life. Here's hoping 128gb is standard next year (I currently have the 128gb 6s which was the most expensive at the time).

On a 6S myself but it's in dire need of replacement (survived multiple drops fine, but a flip on my desk broke the glass and now it's progressively getting worse).

The 11 looked like a fine-ish option (with a 128GB version), but god it's half an inch wider and taller again, and 30% heavier. I guess I'm getting an 8.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by CDSlice »

bradenb wrote: post #211

Honestly I was hoping that the leaked images were somehow very wrong. I hate the look of the back of the phone now. Who thought a rectangular module with a triangle of circular cameras would look good? It doesn't. It looks terrible.

Me?

I personally like the design, it looks futuristic to me. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

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Post by chrisjc »

thiht wrote: post #240
chrisjc wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$700 for the 11 is quite a good price for a phone that's going to last several years. The pixel 4 is going to have to come in at quite a good price to stop me from jumping ship to apple.

Any $200 is going to last several years.

I assume you mean any $200 android phone?

The most I've ever gotten out of an Android phone is 2 years, and at that point it's crawling, not receiving updates (OS or security) and seemingly just abandoned by the manufacturer. This thread is full of people declaring no reason to update to this latest batch of iphones. To me, that speaks volumes about the iphone ecosystem.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by freehunter »

DangerousPie wrote: post #252
jcranberry wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can be annoying if you just want to switch between a small amount of apps or web pages without having to reload an app or a page every time. More RAM would remedy that on a normal computer. I don't know how iOS or Android handle that though.

Sure, having too little RAM matters. But the number alone won't tell you whether it's enough since it depends so much on how the OS works. You may have a better experience with 2GB on iPhone than with 4GB on Android (for example, no idea if this is true).

Comparing it to Android, sure. Comparing it to last year's iPhone though? That's a comparison that will tell you something.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by hrktb »

jimbokun wrote: post #230
neogodless wrote: post #170

It's been clear for quite some time that terms like "Extreme", "Pro" and "Max" are marketing terms. They are not accurate classifications of how they will be used. If people feel strongly enough that the name is not accurate, they will have to buy a competing product that fulfills their needs at the price they are willing to pay. I suppose what would be interesting, but highly proprietary, would be Apple's marketing…

"Pro" has been pretty useful, I think, as a marker in Apple's other product lines. "MacBook Pro" and "iPad Pro" are the ones you buy if you need it for work, because the increased price will pay for itself with increased productivity. But buy the "Air" or basic versions if you are primarily using it for more basic tasks and media consumption. Not sure the "Pro" distinction will hold up for iPhone, though. I guess it…

“Pro” is not just for productivity but comfort of use as well. As an analogy if you sit on a chair 8 hours a day you’ll want a super nice chair, even if it wouldn’t have direct effects on productivity compared to a just decent one.

For most people relying on a smartphone for work, be it 700 or 1000 the device will pay for itself in a few months at most, so I think the price difference won’t matter much. Better battery performance could be significant though.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by masklinn »

alkonaut wrote: post #56
DangerousPie wrote: post #13

I watched the announcement really trying to find an excuse to upgrade. But to be honest there was not a single new feature that I really wanted and that my current iPhone 6S couldn't do. Pity.

If you don’t want a camera upgrade every 2 years then there is zero reason to upgrade. But the camera upgrades alone are usually worth it.

> But the camera upgrades alone are usually worth it.

That assumes you have any sort of use for the camera, otherwise it just makes the phone look freakier and freakier for no reason.

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