iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by mikehotel » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 7:44 PM UTC

js2 wrote: post #165

nanoservices wrote: post #157

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Because the 128 a sweet spot and most people don't have a need for more. The 64 size is just enough to push most intensive users over the hump and in to iCloud subscriptions. I'm sure Apple has all the analytics on how much space is being used by their users and how much iCloud subscriptions would take a hit with an 128 offering.

Except I just noticed the new 11 is available in all three sizes (64/128/256). Whatever, this doesn't bother me so much about their phones. The non-upgradable storage in their laptops is a much bigger issue.

iPhone 11 Pro and Pro Max is available only in 64/256/512GB capacities.

iPhone 11 (non pro) is available in 64/128/256GB capacities.

https://www.apple.com/iphone-11-pro/specs/ https://www.apple.com/iphone-11/specs/

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by tyscorp » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 7:45 PM UTC

neogodless wrote: post #170

It's been clear for quite some time that terms like "Extreme", "Pro" and "Max" are marketing terms. They are not accurate classifications of how they will be used. If people feel strongly enough that the name is not accurate, they will have to buy a competing product that fulfills their needs at the price they are willing to pay. I suppose what would be interesting, but highly proprietary, would be Apple's marketing…

>It's been clear for quite some time that terms like "Extreme", "Pro" and "Max" are marketing terms.

A great example of this is the "PS4 Pro"

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by saagarjha » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 7:45 PM UTC

paul7986 wrote: post #224

saagarjha wrote: post #158

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Yes: when the preview shows up you can turn it off from the menu that comes alongside it.

Thanks and unfortunately I still see a preview menu just not the full preview window. I don't want to scroll while browsing and have any windows appear unless I click a specified link. With this addition each link I scroll and mistakenly grab brings up this annoying preview menu. I don't get it ... is this addition helpful to others? Anyone else extremely annoyed by it?

I'm not really a fan of the new presentation, but that's mostly because it animates in a really annoying, bubbly way :/

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by Kerrick » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 7:45 PM UTC

rstupek wrote: post #69

DangerousPie wrote: post #31

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Yeah, problem is I want both features and quality. :) I am 100% sold on Apple devices in terms of quality, reliability and privacy issues. I don't think I'd buy an Android anytime soon. I just wish they had a few more exciting hardware features.

What kind of exciting features were you hoping for? What does Android phones have that is missing on iphones? Beyond 5G which isn't deployed widely yet

Why do you keep grilling them about Android? They never mentioned Android. They're not comparing iPhone 11 Pro Max to Android phones.

They're comparing it to iPhone 6S. And it's not worth their upgrade.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by masklinn » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 7:45 PM UTC

tpmx wrote: post #67

hownowbrowncow wrote: post #16

I'm quite sad they have removed 3D Touch from the phones. A minor feature I really enjoy with quick peeking — and bummed to lose that touch information for apps like Procreate Pocket and other drawing tools.

They've probably kept the "long press action" for compat reasons? It's equally undiscoverable. I'm not super sad about this one; it was a weird thing from the beginning. It shouldn't have been introduced at all. This feature was introduced in 2014. The timing of the removal makes me think it's related to the departure of Jony Ives.

> They've probably kept the "long press action" for compat reasons? It's equally undiscoverable.

It also doesn't do half as much. E.g. the long-press on the keyboard spacebar only moves the cursor, it doesn't do 3D touch's text selections.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by mike_d » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 7:45 PM UTC

acd10j wrote: post #133

noncoml wrote: post #115

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> I bought my iPhone 8 two years ago thinking of it as a 5 year investment. That's exactly what's wrong, that users don't feel compelled to upgrade. It's bad for business.

But good for users. We will not generate too much electronic waste. Will save money and when finally when their is actually a time to upgrade due to actual hardware degradation, You can get nice bump in hardware spec.

Very little e-waste is generated by iPhone upgrades. Apple is using 100% recycled materials now, has a trade-in recycling program, and their is a robust resell market for older devices.

I'd say the biggest e-waste offender right now is the server market. Enterprises are replacing entire data centers full of servers every 3-4 years because of depreciation and OPEX efficiency upgrades.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by DangerousPie » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 7:46 PM UTC

DuskStar wrote: post #234

DangerousPie wrote: post #112

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Why do you care? I have owned an iPhone for years and I don't even know how much RAM it has. It simply doesn't matter as long as the OS manages it well. Comparing RAM specs between different OS seems pretty pointless.

Why does anyone care how many CPU cores, GPU shaders, or transistors the new iPhone has, then? Those shouldn't matter either if the OS manages things well, right? Comparing RAM between different mobile OSes is not particularly relevant, but then neither is raw CPU speed or graphics horsepower. Still, people do the latter all the time - and comparing to previous iPhones IS relevant.

I agree, and I don't care about any of these other specs either. No idea why they still list them.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by freehunter » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 7:46 PM UTC

stilldavid wrote: post #233

nanoservices wrote: post #173

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Adapters to plugin in iPhones in to Mac Books... Its hilariously incompetent.

Does this cable not work to plug an iPhone into a macbook these days, or am I missing something? https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQGJ2AM/A/usb-c-to-lightn...

Sure it does, but it doesn't ship in the box. In the box is a USB-A -> Lightning cable.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by baddox » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 7:46 PM UTC

gnicholas wrote: post #212

baddox wrote: post #137

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People wouldn’t have booed. This is the same storage pricing as the previous two generations.

There were no previous generations of Pro iPhones. I get that these are replacing the XS and XS Max, but those were not designated Pro. When you put that label on, you have to give all of Pro devices storage to match.

Why would people boo when the new "Pro" models have the same pricing as previous non-"Pro" models? That doesn't make sense. If anything, the "Pro" designation would be expected to cost more.

Of course, it's going to be very obvious to most people that the new iPhone 11 is the direct successor to the XR, and the iPhone Pros are the direct successors to the X, XS, and XS Max.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by pwinnski » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 7:46 PM UTC

nickthegreek wrote: post #195

pwinnski wrote: post #107

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This notch is only seen by non-iPhone users. It disappears completely and immediately.

I am an iPhone user who refuses to upgrade from my 7+ until this silly notch business is removed. It does not "disappear completely and immediately", especially when viewing landscape mode video content.

Sorry, I was not specific enough. It's a "silly notch" to people who don't use an iPhone with the notch. If you never upgrade, it will remain a silly notch to you forever, while those who do upgrade find that it disappears completely and immediately, as I said.

If you want to watch landscape video, a double tap switches between notched and non-notched views, so you can choose if you care. Most people don't after day one.