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Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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Is Google still committed to Wear OS? They're so far behind.

I wish Apple would make their watch work with Android phones, similar to how they made iPods work with Windows computers way back when.

Yeah. Also how airpods work (including gestures) with Android so it's doable if they put in the effort.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

#132

> all-day 18-hour battery life. Is there a standard for what "all-day" means? I think most would initially assume 24 hours, but thinking about it more, it seems reasonable to consider "can work from wake up to sleep" or "can work from sunup to sundown"/

For what its worth, my Apple Watch S3 has "up to 18 hours of battery life" and I wear it all day and all night, usually only taking it off to charge while i get ready in the morning. (30 minutes to an hour?)

Some days I do briefly end up charging it again in the evening for a while. Some days I don't let it charge enough in the morning (sleeping in, or leaving early) and then end up with not enough battery to make it through the night.

I'm curious if you can disable the always on screen for longer battery on the new watch, or how much of a difference that would even make. I don't mind the screen turning off when im not using it.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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post #56

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I think all day depends on the specific device. For example, I would accept a 10 hr battery life for a laptop or wireless headphones as "all-day" because that will cover a full work day and people aren't expected to use those devices 24/7. 18 hours for "all-day" on a wearable seems reasonable if the expectation is that it will be used only when the user is awake. A complicating factor is that Watch OS 6 is supposed t…

While sleep tracking is possible the single most useful thing I could get out of a wearable, I just have never been able to sleep with a watch or band on. Until there's something as low profile as a reminder band (think Livestrong), I'm not sure if I'll be able to get sleep tracking (the Oura ring is promising, but the price point is too high for its limited applications to me).

I use a Beddit for this very reason - https://www.beddit.com

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

#134

> it’s easy to see the time and other important information, without raising or tapping the display > the screen intelligently dims when a user’s wrist is down and returns to full brightness with a raise or a tap These two statements seem somewhat contradictory.

Well I assume you can still see it when it's dimmed, however if you can't, you can simply lift your wrist.

So it still does the wrist motion detection thing.

I wonder if you can turn this feature off so that it behaves like the previous Apple Watch and save more battery.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

#136

> all-day 18-hour battery life. Is there a standard for what "all-day" means? I think most would initially assume 24 hours, but thinking about it more, it seems reasonable to consider "can work from wake up to sleep" or "can work from sunup to sundown"/

1980 watches: battery lasts a couple of months 2019 watches: battery lasts a couple of hours

Funny joke but disingenuous.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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> all-day 18-hour battery life. Is there a standard for what "all-day" means? I think most would initially assume 24 hours, but thinking about it more, it seems reasonable to consider "can work from wake up to sleep" or "can work from sunup to sundown"/

Yeah, I was a little sad reading this.

But I just dug into the specs for my Series 3 and it's only advertised as "18+ hours" also, yet I get 23+ hours from it even after a year and a half of true "all day" use. I wear it for sleep tracking with the AutoSleep app. It's in its cradle 20 mins twice a day when I shower. So yay for conservative Apple specs?

Hopefully this means the Series 5 isn't actually a battery downgrade. If it is, then the Apple-approved sleep apps in their App Store may not get the love they have received with older Apple Watchen.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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post #49

For me, the single biggest problem with Apple Watch is battery life, and they seem to have done nothing to improve it. Garmin has always-on, reflective screen watches that can last for weeks on a single charge. I shouldn't need to babysit my watch.

I'm curious, does anyone with more knowledge know how Garmin are able to get so much more battery life out of their watches? Their official spec definitely lists "2 weeks" in "Smartwatch Mode" (which seems to be GPS disabled, but still heart rate tracking and similar). It is impressive and I'm curious why Apple cannot compete.

I worked on a smart watch team. Turns out writing a simple while loop and a simple task model, cooperative scheduling, let us sleep our processor more often. It was also very light weight in terms of memory. Basically not having the burden of traditional heavy weight OSes really helped get good battery life.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

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post #104

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I'm curious, does anyone with more knowledge know how Garmin are able to get so much more battery life out of their watches? Their official spec definitely lists "2 weeks" in "Smartwatch Mode" (which seems to be GPS disabled, but still heart rate tracking and similar). It is impressive and I'm curious why Apple cannot compete.

Probably at least part of it is that, at least the Garmin Fenix watches are pretty big. The newly-announced Fenix 6 apparently slims down a bit but they're still basically big hunks on your wrist. Personally I don't really mind but big difference from an Apple Watch. Also, I haven't looked recently because I ultimately found my Fenix 5 wholly unsatisfactory for hiking distance tracking with GPS but the watch with GPS…

My Garmin Forerunner is about the size of the larger Apple Watch. While it only lasts 3-6 hours with GPS/HRM/Bluetooth on, it goes for at least 3 weeks on standby, which is what I want from my watch.

Re: Apple Watch Series 5

#140

Always on display, but 18 hours of battery life? I'd rather have a display that turns of and 36 hours of battery life.

I don't think you can just add the hours like that. It's in a low power mode but the screen's still on. Probably uses very minimal battery to have the always-on display.
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