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Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by wlesieutre » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:42 PM UTC

temuze wrote: post #9

Mostly, I hope they bring TouchID back, preferably via a scanner on the back of the phone. Outside of providing a bigger screen, FaceID is strictly worse: - When I pulled my old iPhone out of my pocket, I would have my finger on the scanner and it would be unlocked before it reached my face. With FaceID on the iPhone X, I have to wait a few seconds. - If you wake up and you're squinting as you look at your phone, Fac…

FaceID works a lot better with gloves on than TouchID did.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by briandear » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:42 PM UTC

ruffrey wrote: post #5

I won't upgrade from this old used SE until some phone manufacturer produces a working phone that will fit in a pocket. It boggles the mind. I tried the Jelly Pro, which ran Slack and a handful of critical apps, but the battery life was only a few hours.

How small are your pockets? I have an iPhone X and it fits just fine.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by ljm » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:42 PM UTC

The SE must be my favourite phone ever since the Nokia 3310 (although the Yotaphone was up there for pure novelty of having an e-ink display on the reverse). It was practically perfect and it could take more of a beating than the latest X series phones.

An SE sized X would be nice (with the Face ID and stuff), with a higher screen resolution, but I think it would become more fragile as a result.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by bryanlarsen » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:42 PM UTC

Presumably Apple doesn't make a new SE because it would kill their margins. And it'd be hard for them to make the SE expensive because it would probably be thicker, with a cheaper screen, worse battery life and worse performance (because of battery & cooling).

But I'm sure they could come up with some semi-plausible reason to make an "SE Pro" so they can keep those margins. How about owning the extra thickness and giving it a massive battery and using the depth to put killer camera optics in?

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by skrebbel » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:42 PM UTC

> It is unlikely that any of my friends and family members are going to move to Android, where there is a wide variety of hardware form factors to choose from.

There's hardly any good iPhone SE-sized Android phones anymore. I have a Sony Xperia Somethingsomething Compact and it's the only option I'm aware of, and it's not really that great. I've never had an iPhone but if they release a new SE I'd probably jump ship in a heartbeat.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by jcampbell1 » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:42 PM UTC

paul7986 wrote: post #2

Yes .. iPhone 8 size and below.. please. Current sizes are too big to use in one hand without having to reposition the phone (my pet peeve). Touch ID as well. Preferred over Face ID... grab phone with thumb it opens instantly (my personal experience). Another year for myself Im not refreshing my iPhone. I did every year from 2009 to 2018; bought the XS last year and returned it. EDITED

I was in your camp, then I got a ring that sticks to the back of the phone. I stopped using a case because I no longer drop my phone, and have even started really stupid things like texting while biking. A ring let's you use bigger phones one handed. Those popper things are more popular but inferior in every aspect.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by Apocryphon » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:44 PM UTC

bryanlarsen wrote: post #14

Presumably Apple doesn't make a new SE because it would kill their margins. And it'd be hard for them to make the SE expensive because it would probably be thicker, with a cheaper screen, worse battery life and worse performance (because of battery & cooling). But I'm sure they could come up with some semi-plausible reason to make an "SE Pro" so they can keep those margins. How about owning the extra thickness and gi…

Pretty insane that the most profitable company in the (history of the?) world is so risk adverse so as to obsess about margins.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by oneplane » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:45 PM UTC

bryanlarsen wrote: post #14

Presumably Apple doesn't make a new SE because it would kill their margins. And it'd be hard for them to make the SE expensive because it would probably be thicker, with a cheaper screen, worse battery life and worse performance (because of battery & cooling). But I'm sure they could come up with some semi-plausible reason to make an "SE Pro" so they can keep those margins. How about owning the extra thickness and gi…

I doubt a company like Apple would re-introduce a product like the SE which at this point is that far off the current median product range they manufacture.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by robin_reala » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:45 PM UTC

briandear wrote: post #12

ruffrey wrote: post #5

I won't upgrade from this old used SE until some phone manufacturer produces a working phone that will fit in a pocket. It boggles the mind. I tried the Jelly Pro, which ran Slack and a handful of critical apps, but the battery life was only a few hours.

How small are your pockets? I have an iPhone X and it fits just fine.

My X fits in some of my pockets but not all. I’d definitely go down to a smaller phone if Appel made one; the size jump from SE to X was a bit of a shock.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by tlrobinson » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 6:45 PM UTC

I currently use a gigantic iPhone X, but I found my old iPhone 5S (basically the same design as the SE) the other day and was amazed at how small it was. That was one of Apple's great designs.