There is no place for just shitting all over other people's work
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Re: There is no place for just shitting all over other people's work
#2This has to be an age thing. When I was 10 I shitted (shat?) all over people's work. Now that I'm 25 I have nothing but respect for people who produce.
Re: There is no place for just shitting all over other people's work
#3I dunno, I worked with one designer who firmly believed that "users like a challenge". He loved little tricks like "hiding" clickable things by making them blend in with decorative elements, he liked unusual fonts, he liked layouts that forced the users to hunt all over the screen for the next thing they wanted.
But we weren't making games, we were making corporate Intranets. So my advice is, ignore your designer and try using something he's designed. If it's easy and intuitive, he's a good designer. If it's not, put him on the silly little scooter he'll invariably have and push him gently out of the door... Especially if he tries to tell you "you don't understand design, maaan"!
Re: There is no place for just shitting all over other people's work
#4It's easier to critique than to create. For what it's worth, there are many more critics online, which ultimately intensifies the problem.
Re: There is no place for just shitting all over other people's work
#5This has to be an age thing. When I was 10 I shitted (shat?) all over people's work. Now that I'm 25 I have nothing but respect for people who produce.
There's a middle ground though. You can be very critical and tough and still provide feedback that helps point out weak spots and suggests ways to improve things.
Problem is that it's easy to complain, but hard to provide constructive criticism that helps push things forward. So the "shitters" resort to complaining.
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#6Criticism is good for a creator. If you can't turn criticism into a force to improve your product, you're doing it wrong. (Granted, baseless criticism doesn't count.)
And if they're violating Apple's HIG... Seriously, why? That should be the easiest thing to get right. They've outlined it for you.
Re: There is no place for just shitting all over other people's work
#7This has to be an age thing. When I was 10 I shitted (shat?) all over people's work. Now that I'm 25 I have nothing but respect for people who produce.
"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much he had learned in seven years."
--Mark Twain
Re: There is no place for just shitting all over other people's work
#8Criticism is good for a creator. If you can't turn criticism into a force to improve your product, you're doing it wrong. (Granted, baseless criticism doesn't count.) And if they're violating Apple's HIG... Seriously, why? That should be the easiest thing to get right. They've outlined it for you.
Apple's HIG isn't the end of UI design though. Even Apple refuses to blindly follow it.
It's a guideline. Not hard and fast rules that must be followed in all cases.
Re: There is no place for just shitting all over other people's work
#9I agree that just shitting all over people's work is, well, shitty. But I disagree entirely that the anonymous critic behind Read the Fucking HIG (http://readthefuckinghig.tumblr.com/) is out of line or that this kind of criticism is lacking in merit.
Firstly, it's clearly a bit tongue in cheek: "The evil doctor cackled as the thunder struck his lightning rod, giving life and sentience to his unholy creation, spliced together from iphone, ipad and mac ui." And the vulgarity is right in line with other satirical, single purpose sites like http://www.whatthefuckshouldimakefordinner.com/ and others I can't think of right now.
Secondly, he's got a "legitimate" complaint. You don't have to agree with his point, but I think a lot of people who are passionate about design (and about design in the context of their Mac) really, really do experience visceral rage at the way Apple flouts the HIG. A site like this is really just capturing that zeitgeist and reflecting how heated people actually feel about the topic.
Anyhow, I really am a big proponent for civility in discourse (that's why I'm always reading HN), but everything has its place.
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#10I agree, and will also point out that the referenced site (http://readthefuckinghig.tumblr.com/) is terrible, IMO. Does the holier-than-thou author not know how to use the fucking shift key?