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Re: It's later than you think

#31
No man is an island,

Entire of itself.

Each is a piece of the continent,

A part of the main.

If a clod be washed away by the sea,

Europe is the less.

As well as if a promontory were.

As well as if a manor of thine own

Or of thine friend's were.

Each man's death diminishes me,

For I am involved in mankind.

Therefore, send not to know

For whom the bell tolls,

It tolls for thee.

I hope you heal in time, and we're with you in your grief.

Re: It's later than you think

#32

Remember that performative workaholism is poison to life. Every time you put in more hours over the weekend "just because", dial in to a meeting on your vacation, or get on Slack at 10 PM "just to check a few things" - you're shifting the culture to make it that much more acceptable to demand it of everyone. The parents in your meetings that run until 7:30 bitterly hate you. It might seem OK when you're single, child…

> you're shifting the culture to make it that much more acceptable to demand it of everyone.

I would argue the cowards who refuse to ever stand up to employers are the cause. If you aren't able to push back on your boss, you're fucked regardless of how many hours I choose to work.

Re: It's later than you think

#33
post #7

I think we need to care about our parent too. As they become old, we are just fly away from them and they will struggle in their stage as us. Damn life.

As I age and realize more and more we're all just making this stuff up I really come to appreciate what my parents have gone though and are probably currently going through. Knowing they are struggling the same as I am, they just has a head start, has made me realize that the relationship moves both ways and that we are in fact there for each other as we move through life.

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#34
I don't have kids of my own but my SO's sister has twin boys, aged 5 months.

Reading this article was tough. What if one of her sons doesn't wake up one day? What if something happens to both of them?

She and her husband have busy careers, and while I won't share this article with them (it'll probably be a sore spot) I'm hoping that they'll make enough time for their kids.

Re: It's later than you think

#35
If the author is reading this, I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine the devastation you must have felt and must continue to feel.

It's important that you take care of yourself though. As someone who works in mental health, I've seen how these events sometimes have a way of affecting your mental state in a gradual and cascading manner. Please stay cognizant of you and your family's mental health in this difficult time.

Re: It's later than you think

#36

Remember that performative workaholism is poison to life. Every time you put in more hours over the weekend "just because", dial in to a meeting on your vacation, or get on Slack at 10 PM "just to check a few things" - you're shifting the culture to make it that much more acceptable to demand it of everyone. The parents in your meetings that run until 7:30 bitterly hate you. It might seem OK when you're single, child…

> you're shifting the culture to make it that much more acceptable to demand it of everyone. I would argue the cowards who refuse to ever stand up to employers are the cause. If you aren't able to push back on your boss, you're fucked regardless of how many hours I choose to work.

If everyone stood up maybe we could have some sort of organized labor...wait, that's the ticket, a union! (Seriously, I think that's more in line with what's needed, otherwise you become the squeaky wheel most likely to be replaced when belt tightening comes.)

Re: It's later than you think

#37

If the author is reading this, I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine the devastation you must have felt and must continue to feel. It's important that you take care of yourself though. As someone who works in mental health, I've seen how these events sometimes have a way of affecting your mental state in a gradual and cascading manner. Please stay cognizant of you and your family's mental health in this difficu…

I'm divorced, with one young boy that I split time with my ex. Were this to happen to me, I am really not sure a mental health professional could help.

This quote FTA may have just changed my life:

"I’m guessing you have 1:1 meetings on the books with a lot of people you work with. Do you have them regularly scheduled with your kids? If there’s any lesson to take away from this, it’s to remind others (and myself) not to miss out on the things that matter."

Re: It's later than you think

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you're shifting the culture to make it that much more acceptable to demand it of everyone. I would argue the cowards who refuse to ever stand up to employers are the cause. If you aren't able to push back on your boss, you're fucked regardless of how many hours I choose to work.

If everyone stood up maybe we could have some sort of organized labor...wait, that's the ticket, a union! (Seriously, I think that's more in line with what's needed, otherwise you become the squeaky wheel most likely to be replaced when belt tightening comes.)

As a perennial squeaky wheel who happens to work too much, I think you're on to something.

Re: It's later than you think

#39

Remember that performative workaholism is poison to life. Every time you put in more hours over the weekend "just because", dial in to a meeting on your vacation, or get on Slack at 10 PM "just to check a few things" - you're shifting the culture to make it that much more acceptable to demand it of everyone. The parents in your meetings that run until 7:30 bitterly hate you. It might seem OK when you're single, child…

> you're shifting the culture to make it that much more acceptable to demand it of everyone. I would argue the cowards who refuse to ever stand up to employers are the cause. If you aren't able to push back on your boss, you're fucked regardless of how many hours I choose to work.

> I would argue [...] are the cause

There is a problem in thinking any one thing is "the cause". It's a multi-faceted problem of many self-reinforcing causes. The comment above talking about "shifting the culture to make it that much more acceptable" is a nod to the subtlety of what contributes to this.

All parties, employers and employees both, need to see how they do this.

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