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Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by yumraj » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 3:52 PM UTC

whatshisface wrote: post #6

All of this is funded by their oil wealth. Everything about SA can be traced back to their oil wealth (including their relations with the US). If the oil runs out or the demand for oil drops low enough, we can expect to see an entire country return to the empty desert it came from. Unlike Norway and similarly to Canada their sovereign wealth fund isn't very healthy, and unlike Norway and Canada they don't have much e…

> If the oil runs out or the demand for oil drops low enough, we can expect to see an entire country return to the empty desert it came from.

I think that's the least of the worries. If oil runs out it has the potential to cause a massive upheaval in the Islamic world with can have dire consequences for the entire world.

Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by patthebunny » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 3:53 PM UTC

Well that's nice. Totally makes up for a theocratic dictator having their father chopped up.

I guess they have no choice but to just accept it, because of the same dictator.

Can't believe this shitty government is our "ally". Fuck the Saudi Government.

Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by pmdulaney » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 3:53 PM UTC

ddorian43 wrote: post #9

whatshisface wrote: post #6

All of this is funded by their oil wealth. Everything about SA can be traced back to their oil wealth (including their relations with the US). If the oil runs out or the demand for oil drops low enough, we can expect to see an entire country return to the empty desert it came from. Unlike Norway and similarly to Canada their sovereign wealth fund isn't very healthy, and unlike Norway and Canada they don't have much e…

| My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I drive a Mercedes, my son drives a Land Rover, his son will drive a Land Rover, but his son will ride a camel Rashid bin Saeed Al Maktoum

Hey, if Nigeria can become an up-and-coming tech hub, so can Saudi Arabia.

Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by llampx » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 3:56 PM UTC

pmdulaney wrote: post #13

ddorian43 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

| My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I drive a Mercedes, my son drives a Land Rover, his son will drive a Land Rover, but his son will ride a camel Rashid bin Saeed Al Maktoum

Hey, if Nigeria can become an up-and-coming tech hub, so can Saudi Arabia.

The UAE seems to be handling it all better.

Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by chrisco255 » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 3:57 PM UTC

patthebunny wrote: post #12

Well that's nice. Totally makes up for a theocratic dictator having their father chopped up. I guess they have no choice but to just accept it, because of the same dictator. Can't believe this shitty government is our "ally". Fuck the Saudi Government.

There's 195 countries on the planet. You want to go to war with every single one whose leaders have people arbitrarily killed...you'd need to go to war with most of them, including the United States itself.

Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by smacktoward » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 4:00 PM UTC

yumraj wrote: post #11

whatshisface wrote: post #6

All of this is funded by their oil wealth. Everything about SA can be traced back to their oil wealth (including their relations with the US). If the oil runs out or the demand for oil drops low enough, we can expect to see an entire country return to the empty desert it came from. Unlike Norway and similarly to Canada their sovereign wealth fund isn't very healthy, and unlike Norway and Canada they don't have much e…

> If the oil runs out or the demand for oil drops low enough, we can expect to see an entire country return to the empty desert it came from. I think that's the least of the worries. If oil runs out it has the potential to cause a massive upheaval in the Islamic world with can have dire consequences for the entire world.

With their support for things like Wahhabism, the blockade of Qatar and the war in Yemen, the Saudis are doing pretty well at causing upheaval in the Islamic world even while the oil still flows.

Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by obelos » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 4:02 PM UTC

Pretty cheap as far as PR schemes go. Letting his children leave and speak openly to the free media would be a PR disaster. Killing them would be a worse one. But keep them where they are and under threat of death while giving the appearance of comfortable, consensual living, and everybody wins, right? It at least offers sufficient plausible deniability for Pompeo to continue to ignore the SA government's historical and ongoing affronts to US sovereignty, which is all anyone with a real hand in the stakes cares about.

Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by option » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 4:09 PM UTC

chrisco255 wrote: post #15

patthebunny wrote: post #12

Well that's nice. Totally makes up for a theocratic dictator having their father chopped up. I guess they have no choice but to just accept it, because of the same dictator. Can't believe this shitty government is our "ally". Fuck the Saudi Government.

There's 195 countries on the planet. You want to go to war with every single one whose leaders have people arbitrarily killed...you'd need to go to war with most of them, including the United States itself.

while your statement is technically true, the sa is the most disgusting state in the world. IMHO ideologically even farther from western democracies then north korea is

Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by tomp » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 4:11 PM UTC

whatshisface wrote: post #6

All of this is funded by their oil wealth. Everything about SA can be traced back to their oil wealth (including their relations with the US). If the oil runs out or the demand for oil drops low enough, we can expect to see an entire country return to the empty desert it came from. Unlike Norway and similarly to Canada their sovereign wealth fund isn't very healthy, and unlike Norway and Canada they don't have much e…

Hence the US strategy of developing local oil extraction (fracking etc.). Reduce dependence on the middle east and thus the power of totalitarian regimes. Too bad EU isn't following suit (to the extent they can).

Re: Khashoggi children have received houses in Saudi Arabia and monthly payments

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Post by yumraj » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 4:17 PM UTC

smacktoward wrote: post #16

yumraj wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the oil runs out or the demand for oil drops low enough, we can expect to see an entire country return to the empty desert it came from. I think that's the least of the worries. If oil runs out it has the potential to cause a massive upheaval in the Islamic world with can have dire consequences for the entire world.

With their support for things like Wahhabism, the blockade of Qatar and the war in Yemen, the Saudis are doing pretty well at causing upheaval in the Islamic world even while the oil still flows.

Yes, but it is still somewhat centrally controlled.

I was referring to the fragmentation that will happen in the post-oil world and what it will do.