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Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by EGreg »

Now that the iPhone is on the Verizon network, the competition with Android will heat up.

Until now, Apple had to field unnerving questions about the total # of Android units sold vs iPhone units sold. But there was always a very relevant factor holding it back: to get the iPhone in the US, you had to be on AT&T.

Until now.

Now that the iPhone is no longer married to AT&T and will be offered by Verizon as well, millions will flock to get it. Now we can truly answer the question: do more people like the iPhone than Android phones?

My prediction: yes.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by kgermino »

metamatt wrote: post #72
kenjackson wrote: post #67

Curious, how big do people think this will be? Will Apple double its US userbase or will it be an incremental bump? I tend to think incremental. The people in the US today who really want an iPhone have moved to ATT. The holdouts are those that: 1) Hate AT&T. 2) Are on a business plan who is tied to Verizon. 3) Those on a family plan, but aren't calling the shots. For most of the people in 1-3, they already have a Ve…

People moved to AT&T to get the iPhone, but a lot of them think the experience is subpar, and will prefer not to renew their contracts as things stand. I expect there's a decent chunk of holdouts who'll have a good appetite for the VZW iPhone immediately, and there'll also be a steady stream of people switching from AT&T to Verizon as their contracts expire.

But kenjackson is looking at it from Apple's perspective. Sure a number of people may switch to Verizon from at&t but if they already had iPhone's Apple doesn't see any increase.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by irons »

TomOfTTB wrote: post #4

Pretty much what everyone expected. The same phone on Verizon's CDMA network. The only a few things I noted were... 1. You can use it as a WiFi Hotspot 2. Redesigned antenna (obviously) 3. Verzion isn't getting the 3GS (which is probably why AT&T was so quick to drop it to $49)

... with a puzzling lack of pricing information about hotspot usage, or even basic data.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by irons »

barredo wrote: post #96
rmc wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No I don't think so. Everwhere else on the world is GSM. That confused me when I first read about USA mobile phones, I wondered what this CDMA thing was.

No. CDMA is used also outside the US. * KDDI, Japan's #2 carrier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDDI (20-21M users) * China Telecom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Telecom (216M users) Also others in India too. For instance.

Also, Iraq. Thanks, Darrell Issa!

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by bane »

rmc wrote: post #31
listic wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Verizon's CDMA network technically compatible with anywhere else in the world? (e.g. so that you can us the same phone in U.S and elsewhere, provided it is not locked) Specifically, which frequency band does U.S. CDMA use?

No I don't think so. Everwhere else on the world is GSM. That confused me when I first read about USA mobile phones, I wondered what this CDMA thing was.

It's on a different frequency and uses a different communication protocol.

There are a few Verizon phones that are "world phones" meaning they can operate on CDMA and GSM, so you can take them out of the country with you.

I've brought my CDMA phone with me a few times and more or less got by on wifi for data needs (I wasn't going to pay the ridiculous international call fees anyway, last time I did that with my iPhone a 20 minutes of calltime and a few emails cost me over $150!)

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by tdfx »

enjo wrote: post #99
dpcan wrote: post #89

In my opinion, this will either slash the current price of Android phones or slow down Android growth considerably. I just can't help but to think, if I were a non-geek consumer, and it was the same price to walk out of the store with an iPhone over a Droid - I know I'd choose iPhone. Does the Droid have a silver-bullet marketing point that I'm missing, or is it all over for Android?

Android is perfectly capable of competing on it's own merits. The idea that the iPhone is the phone to end all phones is a very HN-centric idea. Android has been competing quite favorably with the iPhone in hundreds of other markets that lack carrier exclusivity. I think they'll be just fine. Don't forget that there are going to be LTE capable Android devices long before (apparently) we see an iPhone version.

Android is great. The branded, bloated crap that Verizon sells on their Android-based phones is awful. Apples to apples, the pure Android experience is very comparable to the iPhone. But comparing the products as they are delivered to consumers, the iPhone has a huge advantage in that Apple refused to let the carriers ruin the user experience.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by binarysoul »

roadnottaken wrote: post #52
schammy wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. I don't see why people make a big deal out of this. How often do you really need to talk AND use data at the same time? I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever had to or even had the inclination that I wished I could. I think it's one of those features that sounds cool, but in reality no one really uses.

I routinely send my wife pictures* (via MMS or e-mail) while we're talking on the phone. *Not what you think... usually pictures of the cat or what I'm cooking.

um... I do this too!

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by shizcakes »

I really, REALLY hope Apple prevents Verizon from "verizon-ifying" this phone. They constantly put un-removable bookmarks, bloatware apps, and other bullshit on their phones.

That will be a total deal breaker for me, if they do.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by thaumaturgy »

WesleyJohnson wrote: post #98

I'm seriously debating pre-ordering one on February 3rd as I'm an existing Verizon customer. My only hold-up is whether or not they'll release and LTE version in June. Assuming Apple does have the hardware ready by then, what's the likelyhood of Verizon having a substantial LTE presence by then as well? Does anyone know what their LTE coverage looks like or how soon it'll match their 3G coverage? I'm under the impres…

I'm genuinely curious -- really don't want to start a debate -- what do you prefer about the iPhone over the other devices announced at CES this year?

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by pohl »

EGreg wrote: post #111

Now that the iPhone is on the Verizon network, the competition with Android will heat up. Until now, Apple had to field unnerving questions about the total # of Android units sold vs iPhone units sold. But there was always a very relevant factor holding it back: to get the iPhone in the US, you had to be on AT&T. Until now. Now that the iPhone is no longer married to AT&T and will be offered by Verizon as well, milli…

Now we can truly answer the question: do more people like the iPhone than Android phones?

Really? Does that mean that Android is only available on 2 carriers in the US?

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