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Re: Stripe Corporate Card

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Our company Moonlight was an early beta tester of the Stripe Corporate Card. Each person on our distributed team of five has a card, and it's made things like arranging travel or covering minor SaaS charges simple. Happy to answer any questions about the end user experience!

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Re: Stripe Corporate Card

#52

Our company Moonlight was an early beta tester of the Stripe Corporate Card. Each person on our distributed team of five has a card, and it's made things like arranging travel or covering minor SaaS charges simple. Happy to answer any questions about the end user experience!

Is this card tied to an individual or the company? We use Amex and it's tied to individuals so when that person leaves we have to do the dance of migrating the payment to another person. Can we avoid that w/ stripe?

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

#53
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Well, 2% on some things + 1% on everything else is better than I am getting with Amex now. Plus, $50k in free processing is like $1,450 in free money. Honestly, I wouldn't believe that deal, except that I have a multi-year history with stripe as our CC processor and it has been nothing but positive and as-promised. So, I submitted an application. It sounds like a great deal to me.

I push all our spending through a 2% cash back capitalone business visa. Can't find a better cashback rate, though you could run multiple cards through different vendors with their own credit cards, but you get diminishing returns. If you are a big amazon spender (products, not AWS), it makes sense to do an amazon visa, and then the capital one for everything else.

It's really easy to believe the deal when you look at your interchange rates. The Capital One that I mention above has 2.3% interchange rate, so the merchants who take it get hit much harder than other cards. Capital One, stripe, amex etc are all still making a killing on these cards, they just do it on the backs of the merchants who accept them.

Based off our business spending on our card, which isn't extreme by any measures (18 employees, bootstrapped and cash flow positive, doing fairly decent), it probably beats that stripe card even with the processing fee bump.

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

#54

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This is obviously horrible for merchants, but what's really gross is how regressive it is when it comes to poor people and small businesses. Unlike national chains, local outfits don't have the ability to negotiate favourable fee arrangements, so accepting CC payment puts them at another built-in disadvantage relative to well-heeled competitors. And of course, those fees end up baked into the price of everything, and…

"The Payment Card Interchange Fee and Merchant Discount Antitrust Litigation is a United States class-action lawsuit filed in 2005 by merchants and trade associations against Visa, MasterCard, and numerous financial institutions that issue payment cards. The suit was filed due to price fixing and other allegedly anti-competitive trade practices in the credit card industry." Another area where giving freedom to these…

Sometimes the EU can be a bit too strong on consumer rights. For example, while charging excessive "processing fees" for accepting payment by card was a common scam, cards often do cost more to process than various other forms of payment here, and under the EU's latest PSD rules all surcharges for card use have been banned, even those that really did only cover the additional cost of the transaction.

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is obviously horrible for merchants, but what's really gross is how regressive it is when it comes to poor people and small businesses. Unlike national chains, local outfits don't have the ability to negotiate favourable fee arrangements, so accepting CC payment puts them at another built-in disadvantage relative to well-heeled competitors. And of course, those fees end up baked into the price of everything, and…

Depending on the industry sector, cash can effectively be several times more expensive to handle than the US market interchange fees. I don’t think it’s obviously horrible for merchants.

Can you explain what makes handling cash is so expensive? honest question.

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

#56

Does anyone know how similar this is to Brex? Related: what make Brex so special as a credit card for startups?

My guess is that Brex is more geared towards Silicon Valley VC funded startups - they look at how much money you have in your bank when setting your credit limit (it’s essentially a charge card if I’m using the terminology right - your credit limit is basically what’s in your bank account). The rewards are also more appealing than this iteration of the Stripe corporate card - 7x rideshare, 4x travel, 3x restaurants. Again, my guess is that Stripe is aimed to businesses that don’t fall into the traditional VC startup model - but maybe the rewards will become enticing enough that they will be competitive with Brex in that area in the future as well.

You also can’t discount Stripe’s Connect API - could see this being used in tandem with that for some interesting ideas

Edit: taking a closer look - they also integrate into services like Expensify and if you use their card, first $50k of payment processing is free so that’s also interesting. If you’re paying sticker price, that comes out to something like $1500

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

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Tend to agree but I don't think a card is that big of a deal as in this case it's less Stripe owned as it's a Visa card so pretty sure you'd have some additional protection there.

Let’s say you have an issue because stripe suddenly you’re business is fraudulent (read: you got great coverage on HN and suddenly have 1000 extra customers) Stripe flags you and blocks your account. Done. Now your income and money to spend depends on their customer service. Many people have had the same with PayPal, and some with regular banks. So yes, take the card, but also take 5 other cards.

Stripe has been receiving a suspicious amount of praise from HN. Really beginning to wonder if this is all organic at this point. Obviously lots of employees in the comments which they are not hiding that fact. But still makes me want to dig deeper than the surface (as everyone should).

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

#58
post #21

Well, 2% on some things + 1% on everything else is better than I am getting with Amex now. Plus, $50k in free processing is like $1,450 in free money. Honestly, I wouldn't believe that deal, except that I have a multi-year history with stripe as our CC processor and it has been nothing but positive and as-promised. So, I submitted an application. It sounds like a great deal to me.

There’s literally no risk for them. It’s yet another vertical business that isn’t addicted to the fees and they know you’re going to continue to use them for payment processing so the CAC for a corporate customer at ~$1500 or so is dirt cheap for the LTV that they(you) provide.

Re: Stripe Corporate Card

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Tend to agree but I don't think a card is that big of a deal as in this case it's less Stripe owned as it's a Visa card so pretty sure you'd have some additional protection there.

Let’s say you have an issue because stripe suddenly you’re business is fraudulent (read: you got great coverage on HN and suddenly have 1000 extra customers) Stripe flags you and blocks your account. Done. Now your income and money to spend depends on their customer service. Many people have had the same with PayPal, and some with regular banks. So yes, take the card, but also take 5 other cards.

I work at Stripe. Prior to doing so, I fed my family out of a Stripe account for 6+ years.

We're keenly aware of the importance of not messing with our customers' finances in this fashion, not the least because startups are both a core customer segment to us and the heart of what we do. Our policies are tuned around the realities of startups; we get launch days.

If anyone on HN ever feels like we’re slipping, I will do anything in my power to fix that; my email address is my HN handle at stripe.com

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