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Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by __david__ »

schammy wrote: post #36
mey wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. (Will interrupt hotspot) ArsTechnica has an excellent live blog going of it. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/01/liveblog-of-veri...

> Incoming calls will interrupt data activity. I don't see why people make a big deal out of this. How often do you really need to talk AND use data at the same time? I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever had to or even had the inclination that I wished I could. I think it's one of those features that sounds cool, but in reality no one really uses.

I needed it recently--I was driving around downtown LA while talking to a friend and trying to use Google Maps (he was trying to guide me somewhere and I was having trouble finding it). In that case I happened to have spotty coverage and my phone switched to edge and so I couldn't do it and that was adding to my frustration.

Also talking on the phone and needing to look up a reference happens surprisingly often. It's really nice to have data available while talking.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by there »

from http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/11/verizon-iphone-has-reloca...

as you can see in the photo above, the newly revised CDMA antenna notch has pushed the volume and mute controls down a hair from GSM version. That means a lot of cases -- Apple's current bumpers included -- won't fit properly on the Verizon version

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by ecuzzillo »

steverb wrote: post #82
mkinsella wrote: post #3

"On February 3rd our existing customers will have an opportunity to pre-order... on February 10th, everyone will be able to order online, in stores, or in Apple stores." For once, a telecommunications company gives perks to existing customers. For far too long have cell phone and broadband companies pampered new customers with deals rather than existing customers (and rightly so but still frustrating).

I'm honestly confused why the opportunity to pre-order is considered a perk.

Depending on demand vs. production, being first in line might mean a difference of weeks or even months in when you actually receive the phone.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

#104

Post by suninwinter »

steverb wrote: post #82
mkinsella wrote: post #3

"On February 3rd our existing customers will have an opportunity to pre-order... on February 10th, everyone will be able to order online, in stores, or in Apple stores." For once, a telecommunications company gives perks to existing customers. For far too long have cell phone and broadband companies pampered new customers with deals rather than existing customers (and rightly so but still frustrating).

I'm honestly confused why the opportunity to pre-order is considered a perk.

It gives you first crack at a limited supply.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

#105

Post by treblig »

ben1040 wrote: post #17
TomOfTTB wrote: post #4

Pretty much what everyone expected. The same phone on Verizon's CDMA network. The only a few things I noted were... 1. You can use it as a WiFi Hotspot 2. Redesigned antenna (obviously) 3. Verzion isn't getting the 3GS (which is probably why AT&T was so quick to drop it to $49)

I wonder how AT&T will respond to the hotspot feature. Here's hoping they relax a bit on tethering plans.

Agreed, but they've got some serious time on their side. For me (and everyone else who just picked up the 4), about a year and a half.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by m104 »

WesleyJohnson wrote: post #98

I'm seriously debating pre-ordering one on February 3rd as I'm an existing Verizon customer. My only hold-up is whether or not they'll release and LTE version in June. Assuming Apple does have the hardware ready by then, what's the likelyhood of Verizon having a substantial LTE presence by then as well? Does anyone know what their LTE coverage looks like or how soon it'll match their 3G coverage? I'm under the impres…

I highly recommend (as I do to all interested family, friends, and coworkers) that you wait, just a few months, until Apple has launched the new iPhone.

The worst case is that the iPhone 4 will be half the price of what it is today and you waited a bit (assuming no beneficial upgrades; unlikely) and the best case is that you'll get the new phone, with all of its features benefits, for the same price of today's iPhone 4 (much more likely).

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by AlexMax »

enjo wrote: post #99
dpcan wrote: post #89

In my opinion, this will either slash the current price of Android phones or slow down Android growth considerably. I just can't help but to think, if I were a non-geek consumer, and it was the same price to walk out of the store with an iPhone over a Droid - I know I'd choose iPhone. Does the Droid have a silver-bullet marketing point that I'm missing, or is it all over for Android?

Android is perfectly capable of competing on it's own merits. The idea that the iPhone is the phone to end all phones is a very HN-centric idea. Android has been competing quite favorably with the iPhone in hundreds of other markets that lack carrier exclusivity. I think they'll be just fine. Don't forget that there are going to be LTE capable Android devices long before (apparently) we see an iPhone version.

"Android has been competing quite favorably with the iPhone in hundreds of other markets that lack carrier exclusivity."

I always thought that Android was a second-class citizen in places where the iPhone had been out for a while with no carrier exclusivity. Do you have data to the contrary?

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by pak »

jonknee wrote: post #92
mziulu wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this is ok, but how does this iPhone behave differently than the usual here? Do the other phones (when acting as hotspot) keep broadcasting the WiFi signal when receiving data over the cellular network?

It's a limitation to CDMA, so if the same feature were allowed by AT&T you wouldn't have a service interruption due to voice usage (GSM can do voice and data simultaneously).

Well, you can demonstrate this already either with normal Bluetooth tethering or with MyWi after jailbreaking.

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by mdolon »

shade wrote: post #30
TomOfTTB wrote: post #4

Pretty much what everyone expected. The same phone on Verizon's CDMA network. The only a few things I noted were... 1. You can use it as a WiFi Hotspot 2. Redesigned antenna (obviously) 3. Verzion isn't getting the 3GS (which is probably why AT&T was so quick to drop it to $49)

I've been thinking of dropping my AT&T iPhone 4 for a Droid Bionic on Verizon later this year. Given that, I'm really hoping they'll be charging extra for the wifi hotspot feature like they do with Android, or if they're not, making it free for Android users as well. (edit: To be clear, the liveblogs I've glanced at haven't specifically said if it will be free or not, and Verizon apparently won't talk about plan pric…

Send me a message if you end up selling your iPhone, I'd be willing to take it off your hands. (username at gmail)

Re: Verizon iPhone 4

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Post by uxp »

steverb wrote: post #82
mkinsella wrote: post #3

"On February 3rd our existing customers will have an opportunity to pre-order... on February 10th, everyone will be able to order online, in stores, or in Apple stores." For once, a telecommunications company gives perks to existing customers. For far too long have cell phone and broadband companies pampered new customers with deals rather than existing customers (and rightly so but still frustrating).

I'm honestly confused why the opportunity to pre-order is considered a perk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_scarcity

Though, not a digital good, its a psychological way to increase it's appearance of being good.

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