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Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by nesadi »

teekert wrote: post #4
blurbleblurble wrote: post #2

Link to the paper mentioned at the beginning of this article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/#idm140...

Said paper is from 2013, 6 year without being confirmed or with being repressed?

It's been cited 155 times.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=61493914670281996... https://scholar.google.com/scholar?um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&cites=61...

Probably just gone unnoticed, ignored or suppressed by mainstream media.

Edit: am I being downvoted by the same people who think voter suppression isn't a thing or pointing out China's mass incarceration of Uyghurs is propaganda? What in the fuck, Hacker News. I expected more from you people.

Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by frafra »

It has been proven that gluten intolerance/sensitivity does not exist (while celiac disease is very real), so this article seems suspicious from the very first line. There are various studies about that, and even researchers that found some evidence about it, show that there is no such thing in more recent studies (10.1053/j.gastro.2013.04.051).

Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by hamilyon2 »

awinder wrote: post #12

Snopes does a pretty good dissection of this including appropriately putting the research study in proper light: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wheat-toxic/ As if the getholistichealth.com domain wasn’t enough of a BS smell...

I like hacker news because it always provides different opinion and new aspect of any problem.

Thank you.

Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by ekianjo »

blurbleblurble wrote: post #2

Link to the paper mentioned at the beginning of this article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/#idm140...

this paper has so many "maybe" in its conclusion, trying to tie every possible human disease with glyphosate, it is hard to take it seriously. Almost surprised they did not try to link climate change with Glyphosate usage.

On a related note, having a ton of links to other studies proves nothing at all so if this is what you rely on to make a point this is very weak.

Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by ekianjo »

m3nu wrote: post #10
unnamed76ri wrote: post #3

This does not explain why celiac would run in families or why it would only affect some family members. My grandfather, both my brothers and I, and my son have it. But many many other family members are perfectly fine. Presumably being exposed to similar amounts of glyphosate.

Tolerance may vary between individuals. Similar to high-carb diets. Some people can tolerate it well, while others will develop diabetes. Some of the difference can be explained by genetics, but it's still early days.

Among family members you have way less genetic variation than between regular random people.

Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by alkonaut »

frafra wrote: post #13

It has been proven that gluten intolerance/sensitivity does not exist (while celiac disease is very real), so this article seems suspicious from the very first line. There are various studies about that, and even researchers that found some evidence about it, show that there is no such thing in more recent studies (10.1053/j.gastro.2013.04.051).

So many feel better by cutting wheat. What’s not known is why. It’s likely not related to gluten but more likely something associated like yeast or simply keeping a better diet overall when avoiding gluten. I never heard the pesticide link before, and it seems it should be pretty easy to rule out since the increase should be smaller whereever glyphosate is banned?

Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by GuB-42 »

I am skeptical of these findings. It matches the "gluten-free" fad and demonization of glyphosate too well.

First, websites with "holistic" in their name are usually not the most trustworthy. The conclusion "...We need to go glyphosate-free, not gluten-free. And that means going organic..." seems overly broad.

The paper, coming from a peer-reviewed journal, is a bit more trustworthy but it is also a small journal, with a rather low impact score.

Do anyone know better?

Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by fao_ »

hamilyon2 wrote: post #14
awinder wrote: post #12

Snopes does a pretty good dissection of this including appropriately putting the research study in proper light: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wheat-toxic/ As if the getholistichealth.com domain wasn’t enough of a BS smell...

I like hacker news because it always provides different opinion and new aspect of any problem. Thank you.

> I like hacker news because it always provides different opinion and new aspect of any problem.

Learning to google and doing a cursory check of news using snopes would do the same.

Something I have noticed is that people do not seem to do either of those things. I have personally observed that people (with degrees, no less) would rather make an assumption about a topic in the presumed absence of information, rather than actually check that such informatio is available. In one case I was able to show that with a very, very simple google search consisting of two words the information was clearly available within 10 seconds. I do not think this is due to laziness or apathy, as they fail to do this even in cases where they are expending energy on arguing something.

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