Really makes you wonder what stuff they're doing now that will be declassified in a few decades
If there is even something to declassify, considering how little there is left of MKULTRA.
How a deadly fall revealed CIA secrets
91–99 of 99 posts
Re: How a deadly fall revealed CIA secrets
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
If your country doesn't have an intel agency doing this or similar congratulations you are too small to matter.
Not all societies are built around a culture of paranoia, and not all societies manifest this with an autonomous intelligence agency this dark current should be excised from society as the declassifications show they more often undermine our security from domestic and foreign sources
Right some countries are Iceland, a rich place floating in the middle of nowhere with no military intel needs.
And some countries have interests to protect.
That's the difference. It's not morality, it's whether or not you have anything to lose.
Re: How a deadly fall revealed CIA secrets
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
If your country doesn't have an intel agency doing this or similar congratulations you are too small to matter.
That doesn't make it right.
No but that doesn't make irrelevant countries any more moral, it just means they don't have any skin in the game.
Re: How a deadly fall revealed CIA secrets
#94Re: How a deadly fall revealed CIA secrets
#95 > In spring 1953, he visited the top-secret
Microbiological Research Establishment at Porton Down in
Wiltshire, where government scientists were studying
the effects of sarin and other nerve gases. On 6 May,
a volunteer subject, a 20-year-old soldier, was dosed
with sarin there, began foaming at the mouth,
collapsed into convulsions, and died an hour later.
Re: How a deadly fall revealed CIA secrets
#96Interesting how the article turns a story of mass torture and killings akin to nazy mad-science into a story about one individual murder. Makes one wonder why would a state research mind control from drugs, when mind control from history books and newspapers is already so efficient.
The CIA is the Nazi's fourth reich. They escaped Europe, found themselves with new resources in America's military-industrial complex, and have been fucking shit up around the world ever since. There are many in the world who believe we're still fighting Nazi policies, only its the USA this time around, doing the implementing. And its hard to disagree that secret torture chambers (like, literally, thousands of them)…
Do you have any facts to back up such a condemnation of the United States govt like this?!
Re: How a deadly fall revealed CIA secrets
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
If someone shared outright that they'd had similar experiences, few people would believe them.
> I also think this kind of thing exists in society today, but probably bought and sold on exclusive markets to modern lords and ladies. Can you elaborate? I don't know what you're referring to.
Maybe some people have had similar experiences. And how to even begin to share them, let alone ask for help, if that is even possible?
I don't know if that is what is really happening and I doubt that it is, but I also don't know how to distinguish these experiences from that possibility.
Re: How a deadly fall revealed CIA secrets
#98The most terrifying book I have read recently is "Men Who Stare at Goats", by Jon Ronson. He keeps it light, on the surface. If you read what it is really telling you, all these programs like MK-ULTRA were not disbanded, and are still being used against the American public.
The "staring at goats" tale is an example of PSY-OPs tested on the public, wholly successfully. Ever wonder how we got fired up to invade Iraq when the UN inspector was perfectly clear that there were no WMDs there, and we knew Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11?
The Pentagon has never been able to begin to account for the trillions of dollars it gets. Is there any possibility much of it is not piped through black programs into convenient pockets?
Re: How a deadly fall revealed CIA secrets
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
speaking about famous shooters, the MKULTRA doctors just happened to be around: https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/dec/19/mkruby/ "After he shot Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby’s psychosis was diagnosed by the same CIA doctor who had once killed an elephant with psychedelics" The same doctor happened to be around in the context of Charles Manson too : https://longreads.com/2019/06/27/a-manson-murder-investigati…
Sheesh, that is terrifying...