‘We May Have to Shoot Down This Aircraft’
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‘We May Have to Shoot Down This Aircraft’
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#2This is a phenomenal oral history of the events, learning of, and response to the events of 9/11.
If an emergency is a circumstance in which ongoing realities are emergent and aren't predictable based on previous experience or world-models, this is a phenomenal example of those dynamics.
Commander Anthony Barnes: That first hour was mass confusion because there was so much erroneous information. It was hard to tell what was fact and what wasn’t. We couldn’t confirm much of this stuff, so we had to take it on face value until proven otherwise.
I've long maintained that the first signs of a disaster tend to be:
- Information doesn't add up.
- Communications are completely severed.
- Old models of understanding don't apply.
- Old filters or sources of information don't apply, and information overload is experienced because it's not clear what to ignore or what to trust.
Our world models give us the means to process and parse information, but also, critically, let us discard extraneous information at little or no cost. When we're placed in unfamiliar or extraordinary circumstances, "foreign territory" as Col. Bob Maar put it, old models do not hold.
Very powerful reading.
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#3I remember working that day (a cool and sunny Tuesday) and each place I went to I asked them to turn on the TV. Nobody was interested in turning on the TV or even changing the channel to any news channel.
What I thought had happened was a large aircraft accidentally ran into the Empire State building again like had happened many years ago.
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#4Nearly every American above a certain age remembers precisely where they were on September 11, 2001
False: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/911-memory-accura...
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#5The 9/11 tapes are pretty chilling.
http://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/...
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#6Nearly every American above a certain age remembers precisely where they were on September 11, 2001 False: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/911-memory-accura...
I appreciate this detail, but your tone is confusing.
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#7> We didn’t have [missiles] on board to shoot the airplane down. As we were putting on our flight gear in the life support shop, Sass looked at me and said, “I’ll ram the cockpit.” I made the decision I would take the tail off the aircraft
> I genuinely believed that was going to be the last time I took off. If we did it right, this would be it.
- Lt. Heather “Lucky” Penney
That leaves me just speechless and chilled. I'd like to think I have that kind of bravery in me but I hope I never have to find out.
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#8Just gonna leave this here...
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-05/major-university-s...
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#9I remember working that day (a cool and sunny Tuesday) and each place I went to I asked them to turn on the TV. Nobody was interested in turning on the TV or even changing the channel to any news channel. What I thought had happened was a large aircraft accidentally ran into the Empire State building again like had happened many years ago.
I was in the 7th grade, and in my Texas History class in the morning when the news hit. We had a television system that would play news broadcasts for the whole school to start off each morning, and as soon as the news broke, the administration turned those on and had all the classrooms tune in.
At first we thought it was a freak accident... and then we saw the second plane hit.
"Shaken" is the word. It was all anyone could think about for the rest of the day.
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#10http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete...
Another timeline of events
Training exercises, surprising number of red flags ignored.
According to a quote from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleen_Rowley
>During the early aftermath of September 11th, when I happened to be recounting the pre–September 11th events concerning the Moussaoui investigation to other FBI personnel in other divisions or in FBIHQ, almost everyone's first question was "Why?—Why would an FBI agent(s) deliberately sabotage a case? (I know I shouldn't be flippant about this, but jokes were actually made that the key FBI HQ personnel had to be spies or moles like Robert Hanssen who were actually working for Osama Bin Laden to have so undercut Minneapolis's effort.)