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Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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post #358

As far as the fees being so cheap, and every one else guessing about how expensive it would be to do it in a normal banking situation, F. Scott Fitzgerald is relevant: "Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me. They possess and enjoy early, and it does something to them, makes them soft where we are hard, and cynical where we are trustful, in a way that, unless you were born rich, it is…

I'm wandering what services and price structures you are referring to. Examples? While there are vast differences between what's available to low income vs., say, upper middle-class people, the differences on the other side of the distribution curve are not that dramatic. For example, wire transfers in the US are fixed price regardless of the amount, ACH transfers are practically free, mortgage rates cannot go lower…

One example - hedge funds.

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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post #15

Many analysts suspect it's associated with Bakkt, the new yet to launch cryptocurrency exchange created by the NYSE parent.

Source?

https://twitter.com/bakkt/status/1171040208105758720?s=12

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/russian-national-and-bi...

Thanks for posting this. I don't understand how the US can go in and decide BTC-e was a money laundering op and then confiscate bitcoins and put people in jail. Who decides who gets those bitcoins? Surely many other countries have money laundering laws. What makes the US so special that they can go flip a business operating in the Ukraine?

Do you now understand why we need something like Bitcoin? (Even if it's gonna a be a newer version of it in the future, or something even more private etc.)

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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The fact that bitcoin even HAS a "dollar value" attached to it is a testament to the FAILURE of bitcoin's original sole objective.

All currencies do. In exchange markets currencies are often measured in reference to each other, just pop open Bloomberg's currency page: https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/currencies

How would you rather track its value?

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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post #302

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> It effectively establishes a billion dollar bounty for any party who can rewrite enough blocks to erase it. I don't really agree with that statement. Yes, someone could mount a 51% attack to rewrite that block. However, it would be pretty straightforward to see what was happening (and which nodes were the malicious actors). If that did happen, the possible outcomes would be: 1. The value of bitcoin would fall to ba…

You assume the value of bitcoin is somewhat logical, the Etc 51% attack proves otherwise; in the short term holders would rather sustain the delusion.

This is an important perspective. Many BTC investors are unsophisticated retail investors, and are often "true believer" and magical thinking types. They're this decade's version of gold bugs.

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/russian-national-and-bi...

Thanks for posting this. I don't understand how the US can go in and decide BTC-e was a money laundering op and then confiscate bitcoins and put people in jail. Who decides who gets those bitcoins? Surely many other countries have money laundering laws. What makes the US so special that they can go flip a business operating in the Ukraine?

Haven't you heard? The USA owns the Internet.

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

#387

The fact that bitcoin even HAS a "dollar value" attached to it is a testament to the FAILURE of bitcoin's original sole objective.

Today it's pretty much just for launderers, criminals, gamblers, and people who don't know how it works/people looking to take advantage of people who don't know how it works.

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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post #362

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Quite the opposite. If Satoshi is still alive that entity is worth around $10 billion. Incentives are a powerful thing and the fact that Satoshi hasn’t made a transaction in years is strong evidence those keys are lost.

Doesn't sound like evidence. Conjecture at most.

My blockchain might be a little rusty, but is it possible to tell the order in which a coin was mined (vs the total) from the information in the chain?

If so, should be possible to find satoshi coins relatively easily, no?

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite the opposite. If Satoshi is still alive that entity is worth around $10 billion. Incentives are a powerful thing and the fact that Satoshi hasn’t made a transaction in years is strong evidence those keys are lost.

Doesn't sound like evidence. Conjecture at most.

It isn’t proof but it’s definitely evidence.

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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post #111

I'd take issue on two points. First, "wallets' don't exist in the Bitcoin protocol. Second, the tool being used is not sophisticated enough to list the inputs and outputs, giving the false impression that something unusual is "unknown." Try this link to get details: https://blockstream.info/tx/4410c8d14ff9f87ceeed1d65cb58e7c7... There are numerous inputs and a single pay-to-script-hash (P2SH) output. The relatively h…

> It effectively establishes a billion dollar bounty for any party who can rewrite enough blocks to erase it. I don't really agree with that statement. Yes, someone could mount a 51% attack to rewrite that block. However, it would be pretty straightforward to see what was happening (and which nodes were the malicious actors). If that did happen, the possible outcomes would be: 1. The value of bitcoin would fall to ba…

So, if I were a hedge fund, I can effectively short Bitcoins and spend a piddly amount to build a datacenter to carry a 51% attack. If the attack fails, I can re-purpose my datacenter
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