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Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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Important qualifier on that that's missed for most "the very rich". The "rich" are often quite penny pinchers. My grandfather is "rich" (several millions, and in a very cheap place to live in the midwest) but he lived his entire life being extremely strict on spending and controlled personal finances very carefully. He still complains when there's large money to be spent on something that should be cheap.

From what I understand, that penny pinching is often why the rich are rich (excluding those born into more wealth than they can spend). Edit: I'm getting the impression that a large subset of people replying ignored my parenthetical comment.

That's a myth. Most people are rich because their parents were. Most of the rest is rich because they were/are lawyers or medical doctors. (For the super-rich, business and finance becomes more important. But for your average "middle-class rich", lawyers and doctors just dwarf their numbers. Business also has highly unequal outcomes).

As to why this myth persists, I guess it goes well with American puritanical roots. Many possibly don't belief in a strict correlation, if not causality, of everyone's financial situation and their individual moral character, but still promote the idea. See also: prosperity gospel, Ayn Rand.

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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Is it a billion dollars, though? I mean, if you started selling them, the market price would likely go down. In other words, are there enough people looking to buy 94504 BTC at current market value?

I'm sure you could sell the wallet to someone bullish on bitcoin for a good sum though.

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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If these were Satoshi coins that would be a huge story since Satoshi’s private keys are presumed lost.

The identity of Satoshi isn't known. Why should anyone have presumptions about them? I agree it would be a huge story, but "Satoshi's private keys were presumed lost" wouldn't be in the top 10 reasons why.

Because wealth never spent isn't actually wealth. If Satoshi could have, he would have, by now.

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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Is it a billion dollars, though? I mean, if you started selling them, the market price would likely go down. In other words, are there enough people looking to buy 94504 BTC at current market value?

This is true of any market cap valuation.

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I understand, that penny pinching is often why the rich are rich (excluding those born into more wealth than they can spend). Edit: I'm getting the impression that a large subset of people replying ignored my parenthetical comment.

Penny Pinching does not make people rich and is not "often" why they're rich. This is a horrible misconception.

It sounds like you may hold the misconception. Only ~12% of millionaires inherited their wealth. The remainder are "self-made", in that they lived below their means, and saved.

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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Is this a block of Satoshi mined coins? Anyone know a way to see the origin date of a particular coin easily?

If these were Satoshi coins that would be a huge story since Satoshi’s private keys are presumed lost.

I don't think those private keys are presumed lost. Those Satoshi coins are being kept there deliberately.

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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Is it a billion dollars, though? I mean, if you started selling them, the market price would likely go down. In other words, are there enough people looking to buy 94504 BTC at current market value?

Sure, but the flip side is that if you had a billion dollars you couldn't acquire this many BTC because the price would move against you the other direction.

Re: 94k Bitcoin (1B USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

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Try doing 100K in EUR/USD/GBP... It's likely not free (but probably not outrageous either)... Last time I did something like that the transaction cost was small ( On the flip side, I saw a payment go through for one our suppliers today. $50 invoice. > $25 processing fee because it was a european bank processing a USD transaction. :/

> Anti-money laundering processes cost money and many of the crypto-currencies ignore this for now / pass the problem to the fiat ⇆ crypto exchange operators. As I understood, traceability is included by-design in Bitcoin. Maybe you didn't see the other comments, but all the bitcoins of this wallet can be traced back to one or several entities. All history of all transactions is available to everyone, so could you ex…

Not if they used a tumbler for years to accrue that sum
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