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The Cult of Kubernetes

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Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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minikube --vm-driver=none consumes a lot less resources, and k3s even fewer.

I’m using Hyper-V at the moment, I’ll check out your suggestions - thanks

https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/4203

Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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The cycle of picking a tech, jumping ship to it, religiously evangelising it, riding the wave and then jumping ship to the next related tech is typical in my opinion. It is typical for devs. Meanwhile ops have to support every half-arsed tyre-fire technology until the end of time, because a dev wanted to try it once, and now it’s in prod with users relying on it. Kubernetes is in a sense the pushback against that “do…

I worked for someone who had mindset that whatever technology developers wanted was always good and ops should just shut up and put up with it because devs are the ones that make the money for the business. Very infuriating mindset to deal with.

And I've worked at companies where the devs where expected to know their place and not question ops, because ops was seen as the serious adults in the room keeping things running and devs where seen as easily distracted children chasing after the shiniest thing that most recently caught their attention. Made perfect sense when I was on the ops side and was super annoying when I was on the dev side :)

Imagine if people could all just get along.

Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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I am one of these guys who is using K8S at home. The reason is a unified platform for work and home environment.

Do youbuse minikube at home? If it's a real cluster, I'd like to ask what you do for storage. I currently run minkube but would love to move to a real cluster setup.

Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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I think devs often make bad decision makers because in some sense tech is often an addiction rather than a pragmatic choice. The cycle of picking a tech, jumping ship to it, religiously evangelising it, riding the wave and then jumping ship to the next related tech is typical in my opinion. I try hard to correct for this bias but sometimes struggle with exactly the same thing. There's just something about wanting to…

I think jumping on new tech and marketing yourself is a good decision for a developer as its a good way to increase their compensation and market value. If you're a developer stuck maintaining a Java spring app at some unknown company the best way to make a shift is to pick up Go or something and move to a startup. Else your career will stagnate.

The best way to get promoted at many companies is to write a framework. The best way to get noticed is to write an open source framework. And so on.

Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for someone who had mindset that whatever technology developers wanted was always good and ops should just shut up and put up with it because devs are the ones that make the money for the business. Very infuriating mindset to deal with.

And I've worked at companies where the devs where expected to know their place and not question ops, because ops was seen as the serious adults in the room keeping things running and devs where seen as easily distracted children chasing after the shiniest thing that most recently caught their attention. Made perfect sense when I was on the ops side and was super annoying when I was on the dev side :) Imagine if peopl…

Smaller companies I've worked for don't really seem to suffer from this problem although once companies are larger and have separate teams (and, perhaps more importantly, managers who are incentivized in different ways) this problem always seem to arise.

Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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I think devs often make bad decision makers because in some sense tech is often an addiction rather than a pragmatic choice. The cycle of picking a tech, jumping ship to it, religiously evangelising it, riding the wave and then jumping ship to the next related tech is typical in my opinion. I try hard to correct for this bias but sometimes struggle with exactly the same thing. There's just something about wanting to…

The other side of the coin is that there are very real improvements in newer tech and companies, in my experience, are only willing to support continuing education that is directly related to the tech stack that they are using.

So a developer that doesn't want to deal with already solved problems and who wants to advance their knowledge is incentivized to push for jumping to the newest tech.

Re: The Cult of Kubernetes

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post #12

I think devs often make bad decision makers because in some sense tech is often an addiction rather than a pragmatic choice. The cycle of picking a tech, jumping ship to it, religiously evangelising it, riding the wave and then jumping ship to the next related tech is typical in my opinion. I try hard to correct for this bias but sometimes struggle with exactly the same thing. There's just something about wanting to…

> I think devs often make bad decision makers because in some sense tech is often an addiction rather than a pragmatic choice.

I also think this has a lot to do with how devs spend our time: with the tech itself. Whether your application is running on Kubernetes or a box in your garage matters to precisely zero customers as long as it performs well, but as developers we spend our whole day dealing with various APIs and technologies, so we develop an outsized sense of the importance of those things.

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