App Updates for HTML5 Apps • Hacker News Board

Re: App Updates for HTML5 Apps

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Post by scarface74 » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 3:04 AM UTC

api wrote: post #70

scarface74 wrote: post #69

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Despite the outcry on HN, few users care about Apple’s “walled garden”.

iOS with its total walled garden and curated App Store is great for non-computer-people. What we're seeing is the bifurcation of computing into devices and software for computer aficionados, programmers, hobbyists, and others who want a "real computer" and devices and software for people who don't know much about computers and don't really care about them beyond using them for communication, entertainment, etc. I don…

And there is a lot to be said about purpose built devices. I enjoy the experience of my Apple TV much more than the Mac Mini I had connected to my TV in 2006.

I’m debating about getting either a NAS that is powerful enough to transcode to run Plex or an Nvidia Shield as a dedicated Plex server.

Re: App Updates for HTML5 Apps

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Post by zaphirplane » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 4:01 AM UTC

reaperducer wrote: post #50

ksec wrote: post #46

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>(4) does not provide access to real money gaming, lotteries, or charitable donations Why is that? I also don't understand how is Kickstarter allowed when not everything they have are physical goods.

My guess is that it involves complex jurisdictional things. Money Transfer Method A is not permitted in City/County/State/Nation B. Person A lives in City/County/State/Nation B and is not able to download Money Transfer Method A app that is acting correctly as an app. Everything is in order. Person A lives in City/Country/State/Nation B and downloads an app that provides an HTML gateway to Money Transfer Method A. Ap…

A native app would have this issue and wouldn’t be b locked. Native apps would call some web api to transact, which isn’t reviewable by apple.

As for the heat you describe I think you may be influenced by tv/movies usually a company like apple has a law enforcement contact. Police or prosecutors would contact apple and that’s it. I assure you law enforcement and apple have a regular open channel. Apple doesn’t bend over backwards but do comply as you have to in any country

Re: App Updates for HTML5 Apps

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Post by WalterGR » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 6:05 PM UTC

slaymaker1907 wrote: post #64

vbezhenar wrote: post #28

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Apple wants to earn more money by taking a cut from your transactions. Few people are ready to share their profits unless forced to do so. It's not monopolistic behavior, because Apple does not hold a monopoly in any market.

Except the very important market of App distribution on iOS.

Is that a high enough bar to be a monopoly in an important legal sense, though? One could easily switch to Android.

If I’m the only person that sells WalterGR’s apple tart appetizers, then I have a monopoly on that. But one could easily buy an them elsewhere...

Not trying to do reductio ad absurdum. One could think of an example between apple apps and Apple’s app store.

Re: App Updates for HTML5 Apps

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Post by writepub » Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 8:56 PM UTC

dragonsh wrote: post #67

Majority of the Chinese app eco-system is based on this HTML5, including WeChat mini-apps and Alibaba's Alipay and Taobao apps. I hope Apple apply this guideline equally to all developers and do not Grant exceptions to WeChat or others in China being a bigger market. Since WeChat mini-apps in HTML5 is a very large eco-system in China with its own security risks, let's see how this works in reality.

Not going to happen. Apple has a very realpolitik approach to it's totalitarianism. China is not an adversary Apple can take on, by it's own internal judgement. Hence, iCloud China runs on Chinese government controlled cloud with possibly full access to data. Hence, WeChat and co. will never be meted out the same draconian polices that companies without state patronage get.

Re: App Updates for HTML5 Apps

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Post by hutattedonmyarm » Mon, Sep 09, 2019, 10:09 AM UTC

tobr wrote: post #59

hutattedonmyarm wrote: post #32

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Good. The „app“ for my mobile carrier is entirely a web view, to the point that I got a „please download our app“ banner within the app . Until recently it wasn’t even updated to support anything bigger than a 4.7“ iOS device. So the website pinned to the springboard provided a better experience than the app

Sorry, this is completely off topic, but let me guess - you are German? That style of quote isn’t used in English.

Yep. I usually don't use this style, but didn't pay attention to my phone's smart quotes thing where it selects the "correct" quotes style