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Does anyone have any idea if this is fatal/permanently debilitating or if it is temporary? That would seem kind of important. EDIT: I guess I meant to say, yes, people have died, but of those that recovered is it a full recovery or a permanent disability?
This title totally sounds like one of those headlines in Plague Inc. :D
The majority of cases seems to be THC carts where it can be confirmed. One case was confirmed from a dispensary in Oregon. The "Dank Vapes" carts are sold on eBay/AliExpress and anyone can fill them with anything. Reading on here the VitE may have been to increase potency is not something I'm familiar with since I'm not in the TCH trade, but I do know that synthetic vitamin E is made from a petroleum product precursor, and a food grade level of purification may not mean a quality to which it should be vaporised and inhaled.
CDC's reaction is over the top, especially next to the FDA which is offering more precise warnings of avoiding THC carts. Be safe if you're using these thc products, especially since even larger suppliers have trouble tracking supply, bank accounts and company formation that typically cleans up quite a bit of the bad actors from an industry. Nicotine vapes have matured significantly because of this moving to clean labs and central production of the liquid.
The thing causing this outbreak seems to have been someone using a vitamin e oil to increase the potency of their thx carts up to 95% or so. [0] I also believe they were out of Chicago. Or at least they shipped a lot of carts to Chicago/Illinois and then they spread out from there. But this is just from the cases I've read. Also from today Doctors have identified previously unrecognized characteristic of the vaping-r…
It might also explain why the cases seem confined to the USA and we're not seeing it amongst other large vaping populations like Canada and the UK There are too many fly-by-night and backyard operators in both the device and liquid industries - it is very reminiscent of the prohibition era where people died from bad batches of alcohol I'd really prefer to see a well-regulated industry as vaping is one of the best har…
Of course the real issue in evaluating the safety of e-cigerates is that we need 30-50 years of people dying from them before we really know how they compare to regular smoking.
[1] https://www.sst.dk/da/sundhed-og-livsstil/tobak/andre-tobaks...
Yes ok, it’s a bad batch of juice (probably), it won’t effect most vapers (probably), better regulation will solve the problem (maybe). But I have got to ask... was all the vaping done thus far and into the future worth even one person dying needlessly? It’s cigarettes all over again. Who benefits except the people selling it? Yes freedom, yes whatabout other pointless harmful things in the world, but vaping has alre…
You see, for people who enjoy vaping, it's sort of like that.
But it means that now we've got an understudied activity, with people using liquids filled with who knows what. There was bound to be health risks sooner or later.
Yes ok, it’s a bad batch of juice (probably), it won’t effect most vapers (probably), better regulation will solve the problem (maybe). But I have got to ask... was all the vaping done thus far and into the future worth even one person dying needlessly? It’s cigarettes all over again. Who benefits except the people selling it? Yes freedom, yes whatabout other pointless harmful things in the world, but vaping has alre…
No, no, no, no. It's generally recognized as a safer alternative to smoking. Sure, long-term effects are unknown, but I can breathe a whole lot easier since I switched to an e-cig. Go tackle the obesity crisis first. Or how about HIV in the homosexual community? Haven't enough people died from contracting HIV from gay sex? Isn't it about time we outlaw that?
The thing causing this outbreak seems to have been someone using a vitamin e oil to increase the potency of their thx carts up to 95% or so. [0] I also believe they were out of Chicago. Or at least they shipped a lot of carts to Chicago/Illinois and then they spread out from there. But this is just from the cases I've read. Also from today Doctors have identified previously unrecognized characteristic of the vaping-r…
It might also explain why the cases seem confined to the USA and we're not seeing it amongst other large vaping populations like Canada and the UK There are too many fly-by-night and backyard operators in both the device and liquid industries - it is very reminiscent of the prohibition era where people died from bad batches of alcohol I'd really prefer to see a well-regulated industry as vaping is one of the best har…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It might also explain why the cases seem confined to the USA and we're not seeing it amongst other large vaping populations like Canada and the UK There are too many fly-by-night and backyard operators in both the device and liquid industries - it is very reminiscent of the prohibition era where people died from bad batches of alcohol I'd really prefer to see a well-regulated industry as vaping is one of the best har…
Or just better identification/reporting: > The number of reported cases has skyrocketed, though this is likely a consequence of better information coming from state health authorities and hospitals, rather than a sudden epidemic.
The thing causing this outbreak seems to have been someone using a vitamin e oil to increase the potency of their thx carts up to 95% or so. [0] I also believe they were out of Chicago. Or at least they shipped a lot of carts to Chicago/Illinois and then they spread out from there. But this is just from the cases I've read. Also from today Doctors have identified previously unrecognized characteristic of the vaping-r…