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Eyewitnesses describe brutal beatings by HK police

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Re: Eyewitnesses describe brutal beatings by HK police

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Post by grzm »

spraak wrote: post #20
mexus wrote: post #18

Why did this story get flagged? I found it interesting and learned a bit more about the topic.

I'm left wondering the same thing, and increasingly frustrated that these kind of questions about HN's transparency never get answered

Stories that show up as '[flagged]' are flagged by members. There's no mystery or conspiracy here. Given the number of China and HK stories that appear on HN and the tendency for the comments to generate a lot of heat (as opposed to constructive light) and tread the same ground, I think it's likely that there are enough members to flag this story to get it tagged '[flagged]'.

Re: Eyewitnesses describe brutal beatings by HK police

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Post by dqonvzpa »

mexus wrote: post #18

Why did this story get flagged? I found it interesting and learned a bit more about the topic.

HN is influenced by CCP. Paul Graham is doing business in China. Any bad words about CCP will get censored.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17763426

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Post by mclightning »

__m wrote: post #10
adamnemecek wrote: post #2

How can people in Europe and US help?

By staying out of it. Hongkong belongs to China just as Catalonia belongs to Spain, or California to the US. Imagine China interfering with that.

It is an unpopular opinion, but actually this is right answer. Look at Syria and other examples. We should stop pretending, we are supporting people by posting,liking stuff online. They will be all alone when things gets serious. So, let's stop giving these people false sense of hope for help from anywhere else.

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Post by H8crilA »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #17

What can you do about this? Pretty much nothing. China is the second largest economy in the world, and has the second most powerful military. In addition, what they view as the integrity of China is one of their biggest priorities. In addition, they have always viewed British control of Hong Kong as a national humiliation and are bent on erasing all traces of that memory. The way it stands right now, China can inflic…

This situation we're in is making me really uneasy. WW2 was preceded by tariffs and a freezing of global trade, which messed up the German economy too much, pushed it into an inflationary debt crisis and eventually created Nazism. Nazism was a response to a perceived foreign threat that "did a lot of damage to our people, and it's time for us to be the best".

Say the trade war ends up badly and the Chinese debt bubble pops. How easily can the mainlanders be convinced that it's "the West", in particular America, fucking with them, as they already believe is the case in Hong Kong protests. Then collectively mobilize into a military response, starting a process that will take tens of millions of lives.

We're all people, please never forget that. The single thing all of us want is not to be drafted into the military and give our lives in a service of some dogma, bleeding out to death on a street in some remote corner of the world.

Re: Eyewitnesses describe brutal beatings by HK police

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Post by H8crilA »

adammunich wrote: post #7
adamnemecek wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something more direct.

Stop buying imported goods?

Don't, freezing the global trade is dangerous. It was one of the causes of the German debt crisis and the rise of Hitler.

Trade tools are incredibly effective in foreign policy and therefore seem very appealing to people in power but also too often ended up badly for the world when deployed. Know the history.

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