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Eyewitnesses describe brutal beatings by HK police

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Re: Eyewitnesses describe brutal beatings by HK police

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Post by chillacy »

adamnemecek wrote: post #4
option wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

letting you elected representatives know that you care is the easiest thing we can do.

Something more direct.

Pick a spot on the spectrum between "plane ticket, wear black, brave tear gas and beatings" and "thoughts and prayers"

Re: Eyewitnesses describe brutal beatings by HK police

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Post by i_am_nomad »

nitrobeast wrote: post #14
adamnemecek wrote: post #2

How can people in Europe and US help?

By being more concerned about police brutality in US, which will give totalitarian states less excuse to behave similarly.

I have yet to hear the Chinese government explain their actions in Hong Kong with regards to American police procedure.

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Post by inflatableDodo »

__m wrote: post #10
adamnemecek wrote: post #2

How can people in Europe and US help?

By staying out of it. Hongkong belongs to China just as Catalonia belongs to Spain, or California to the US. Imagine China interfering with that.

Is easy to imagine. People go all over the place and people love interfering. History would be dramatically different otherwise. And probably a lot shorter.

Re: Eyewitnesses describe brutal beatings by HK police

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC »

What can you do about this? Pretty much nothing. China is the second largest economy in the world, and has the second most powerful military. In addition, what they view as the integrity of China is one of their biggest priorities. In addition, they have always viewed British control of Hong Kong as a national humiliation and are bent on erasing all traces of that memory.

The way it stands right now, China can inflict a lot more pain, and is likely willing to endure more pain that the rest of the world is likely willing to inflict on China because of their behavior in Hong Kong.

Basically, the fate of Hong Kong was decided in 1985 with the Sino-British Joint Declaration which ceded Hong Kong back to China in 1997. If Great Britain, and the rest of the world did not have the will to resist China taking control of Hong Kong in 1985 and 1997 when China was a lot less powerful, a lot less developed, and a lot more susceptible to pressure from the rest of the world, there is no hope for now.

Re: Eyewitnesses describe brutal beatings by HK police

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Post by qub1t »

__m wrote: post #10
adamnemecek wrote: post #2

How can people in Europe and US help?

By staying out of it. Hongkong belongs to China just as Catalonia belongs to Spain, or California to the US. Imagine China interfering with that.

Just because Hong Kong “belongs” to China doesn’t mean the west should ignore the wishes of what seems like the majority of the population that lives there. Especially when they’re protesting against an anti-democratic authoritarian government, and all they’re asking for is a reduction of police brutality and the right to a democratically elected government.
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