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Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by vxNsr »

Marsymars wrote: post #34
discreditable wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And God help them if they somehow have a work/school and personal Microsoft account and don't remember which one they used.

Is this somehow worse with MS accounts than with Google or Apple accounts?

Its compounded by the fact that we all had Lumias (I still like the UX over anything out today) and some used existing hotmail/live accounts while others created new ones, even though they had existing ones. At this point they have no idea what they used any more for what and it's often a hassle when they switch phones or get logged out.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by vxNsr »

valleyjo wrote: post #119
baddox wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like an infuriating and interesting bug. Any idea what would cause that across Microsoft iOS apps? Do they just aggressively timeout sessions?

If it's a work or school account it can be related to cache lifetime settings your admin sets on the accounts. At my company it's set to an infuriating two days, so every Monday I have to log back in with 2FA again...

That's ridiculous. Apps should stay logged in for as long as the app is installed on your phone or until you log out/change the password.

This is actually for personal accounts. (Specifically family)

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by mattkevan »

vxNsr wrote: post #11

Please make this a reality. To-Do is a joke compared to Wunderlist. It suffers from the same fate as all MS-built iOS apps: random logouts. I can't convince anyone to use MS apps because the first time they get logged out after an update they just stop using the app.

Argh. It’s infuriating. I’ve had to start using Office after managing to avoid it for most of my career, and every day it makes me sign in with 2FA on Mac, iOS and the web. For. Every. Single. App. It’s so boring and stupid.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by md5wasp »

amix wrote: post #80
nxc18 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been a huge Todoist fan and premium subscriber since 2013. At the time it was hard to find anything that got task management right and worked on every platform. One question: are you still innovating/investing in the core to-do experience, or is all your effort being put into Twist? Todoist is fantastic (I continue to evangelize it and have converted a few friends already) but it is starting to feel like it coul…

Most of the company are working on Todoist, and we have a big update coming in October. For the past two years, we have worked on an initiative called Todoist Foundations, which is redoing and rethinking some of the design and tech debt we had (e.g., the web app has been rewritten to use React and Redux). I understand the frustration, but it was critical for us to spend time on improving the core.

Hey, thanks for being active in the comments! I really love Todoist, and I used to be a paying subscriber except I had a bug that I couldn't quite get support to even understand, let alone fix!

I like to leave Todoist open in a permanent/pinned tab. Often, when I open that tab, the pre-filled date for "today" in the new-task-entry area is stale, yesterday or a few days ago (right now it's 5th September). I assume because that's populated on page load and never updated?

What will happen is that I enter a task without setting a date, meaning I want it for today. It then saves that task as ONE YEAR IN THE FUTURE minus one day. The task then gets forgotten and not done :(

Also, I cannot get Siri to understand "todoist". I've tried every pronounciation, even "2-doyst"!

I really love Todoist, but that one bug hits me so often!

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by amix »

Mayzie wrote: post #109
amix wrote: post #65

If you are looking for an alternative todo app that is in it for the long haul, check out Todoist. We have been at it longer than Wunderlist (12+ years), and we will never sell out. As I like to put it, death is my exit strategy. For more thoughts about this, check out https://doist.com/blog/no-exit-strategy/

Can somebody please explain the advantages of a todo app, like Todoist, over say a calendar app like Google Calendar? Everyone seems to love them, but cannot give me a good reason _why_, other than "I use it to jot down little tasks which I don't think a Calendar app is suitable for." I'm a current subscriber to Todoist, but just don't see why I should pay when Google Calendar seems to do everything I need (and more)…

When I develop, which unfortunately isn’t very often now, I usually try to split a project/task into smaller manageable chunks. This makes it easier for me to estimate and track work and feel like I am doing progress when I check things off. You can see an example here https://twitter.com/amix3k/status/1138363500147937281?s=21

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by vxNsr »

maklu wrote: post #69
viach wrote: post #39

I don't understand, why Microsoft is porting features from Wunderlist to their To-Do instead of just shutting down To-Do and add small shiny MS logo to Wunderlist? As far as I can see, WL is more feature rich and has better user base, no?

Wunderlist still runs on AWS. To-Do runs on a Microsoft back-end, including all security features needed for their enterprise (O365) customers..

This would make a great case study for migrating a full stack AWS app to Azure. They're constantly trying to convince their customers to migrate to full stack Azure, here's their chance to prove it's doable. Dog food and all, I'm sure they'll find some pain points they could fix.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by XCSme »

amix wrote: post #65

If you are looking for an alternative todo app that is in it for the long haul, check out Todoist. We have been at it longer than Wunderlist (12+ years), and we will never sell out. As I like to put it, death is my exit strategy. For more thoughts about this, check out https://doist.com/blog/no-exit-strategy/

I still use Todoist, but mostly as a note-keeping app. I prefer Trello now as the Kanban board makes organizing and updating tasks much easier than the folder/list structure of Todoist.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by aquark »

iamnotacrook wrote: post #75
Marsymars wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this somehow worse with MS accounts than with Google or Apple accounts?

Yeah, I can't even log into my MS account to do MSDN stuff. Microsoft support: "Use any non-microsoft browser". I ended up creating a "personal" and "work/school" account as part of the process, and I think I have to pretend it's the personal account when I log in. I get the feeling I was creating two accounts - a live account and one related to the MSDN side of things, and they are linked in some way. Why...just why…

Microsoft accounts are definitely a mess.

I had a Microsoft account from a long time back: me@company.com

Years later the company decides to adopt the whole office365 thing and so company.com is now 'managed' by MSFT for email, etc .... so I have a me@company.com 'company' account as well as the 'personal' one.

I'm sure there are a lot of complicated edge cases around all of this which make moving forward really tough for MSFT without breaking things, but the current status quo is confusing and very user hostile.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Post by rollinDyno »

nxc18 wrote: post #71
amix wrote: post #65

If you are looking for an alternative todo app that is in it for the long haul, check out Todoist. We have been at it longer than Wunderlist (12+ years), and we will never sell out. As I like to put it, death is my exit strategy. For more thoughts about this, check out https://doist.com/blog/no-exit-strategy/

I’ve been a huge Todoist fan and premium subscriber since 2013. At the time it was hard to find anything that got task management right and worked on every platform. One question: are you still innovating/investing in the core to-do experience, or is all your effort being put into Twist? Todoist is fantastic (I continue to evangelize it and have converted a few friends already) but it is starting to feel like it coul…

I've been using Todoist for 5 years and even though they're still my favourite solution in the market I don't think they're innovating in any way. I always have half a mind to create my own app implementing features no todo app has yet.

Tbf, I have tried to reach out to Amir but he seems to busy to reply (?).

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