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Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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If you are looking for an alternative todo app that is in it for the long haul, check out Todoist. We have been at it longer than Wunderlist (12+ years), and we will never sell out. As I like to put it, death is my exit strategy. For more thoughts about this, check out https://doist.com/blog/no-exit-strategy/

Love the stuff and also lack of exit strategy. If a owner and ceo truly belived in her/his company they would never sell it. It's like a child.

At some point most parents are ready for their children to move out and do their own thing.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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>I am still awe at how bad MS is at making Windows apps. They've gotten better at being bad. Before, apps crashed but at least they were full featured, had two or three ways of doing the same thing - so you could get shit done. Now, stuff from MS is generally slower, still crash prone, looks fancy but is bare-boned, updates remove the few useful stuff and replace em with half baked alternatives or nothing.

Yesterday HN had a front-page article about how making your app do less was the key to making it more useful. This is a meme I’ve never understood.... how is it more “useful” if it is less “full of stuff to use”. When people equate streamlining experience with feature removal you get this kind of frustration.

I'd understand the reasoning if the removed features could possibly make more sense in a separate app or some kind of optional add-on module, or if perhaps the point is really about the user interface not being overwhelming — and yet Microsoft manages to take apps with perfectly straight-forward user interfaces and twist them until the one or two features that an app has are uselessly hidden behind one or two hamburger menus.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Anybody using Remember the Milk for their todos ? I used it and loved it.

Yes I use it daily, it's got some important distinguishing features compared to the competition like Todoist. For example start dates, do not under any circumstance show me a task until it's ready to start. Why Todoist haven't added this after all these years I've no idea, I have so many regular tasks that this is useful for.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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Meh, give me a self-hosted or open core version and maybe I'll consider switching from taskwarrior

Bold negotiation tactic. I'm a fan. I've often found myself at Best Buy explaining that I'd gladly buy a new computer if they can ship all of the hardware components to me for free and I'll assemble them myself. That way, Best Buy doesn't make any money and I spend hours of my day (which, by the way, I bill my employer hundreds of dollars per hour for during the work week) assembling something that I'll have to do al…

Self-hosted != free

It’s more like going to Best Buy and just buying a computer. End of analogy. Because that means you now own the computer and Best Buy can’t one day prevent you from using it or stop you from getting your data out of it.

Btw, I use Todoist and don’t need all my software to be self hosted. But I understand why some people do want that.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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If you are looking for an alternative todo app that is in it for the long haul, check out Todoist. We have been at it longer than Wunderlist (12+ years), and we will never sell out. As I like to put it, death is my exit strategy. For more thoughts about this, check out https://doist.com/blog/no-exit-strategy/

todoist seems nice. It is an app that does one thing and does it well. If you want to do more than just tasks, check out my app: https://circles.app It creates tasks too, and you can assign tasks to your family members. But you can also create and share notes, lists, links, files, photos, etc.

Any where I can find more info about circles before creating an account? Your website (at least on mobile) has almost no information about what I am signing up for.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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I don't understand, why Microsoft is porting features from Wunderlist to their To-Do instead of just shutting down To-Do and add small shiny MS logo to Wunderlist? As far as I can see, WL is more feature rich and has better user base, no?

Wunderlist still runs on AWS. To-Do runs on a Microsoft back-end, including all security features needed for their enterprise (O365) customers..

Speaks in part to how much vendor lock in there is with cloud providers that this has been such an involved migration.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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If you are looking for an alternative todo app that is in it for the long haul, check out Todoist. We have been at it longer than Wunderlist (12+ years), and we will never sell out. As I like to put it, death is my exit strategy. For more thoughts about this, check out https://doist.com/blog/no-exit-strategy/

I used Todoist for years, upon discovering it and following its development on your blog almost a decade ago. Sadly I ditched it a few years back upon discovering the power of start dates, I'd jump back in a heartbeat if you ever added them.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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If you are looking for an alternative todo app that is in it for the long haul, check out Todoist. We have been at it longer than Wunderlist (12+ years), and we will never sell out. As I like to put it, death is my exit strategy. For more thoughts about this, check out https://doist.com/blog/no-exit-strategy/

Can somebody please explain the advantages of a todo app, like Todoist, over say a calendar app like Google Calendar? Everyone seems to love them, but cannot give me a good reason _why_, other than "I use it to jot down little tasks which I don't think a Calendar app is suitable for." I'm a current subscriber to Todoist, but just don't see why I should pay when Google Calendar seems to do everything I need (and more)? As an ADHD sufferer, the reminder system in most todo apps only remind you once about 30 minutes prior to the task due and that's it, instead of being able to delay a reminder and remind me again 5 minutes before a task is due, 1 minute, or even 5 minutes after a task is due.

Re: Wunderlist founder wants to buy his app back from Microsoft

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If you are looking for an alternative todo app that is in it for the long haul, check out Todoist. We have been at it longer than Wunderlist (12+ years), and we will never sell out. As I like to put it, death is my exit strategy. For more thoughts about this, check out https://doist.com/blog/no-exit-strategy/

Please add a sound option when ticking off items. This is honestly the only reason I am with Wunderlist over the other TODO apps/sites. Such a small feature but gives a lot of joy!

This sounds like a perfect case for a UserJS
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